Why Gingrich is Bad (and Romney is Awesome): A Politico Megathread Spectacular

[TheGlobalizer]

Troll thread.

That said, this:

This is a really, really disgusting thread. Tempted to hit the report button, but, I don't know. Perhaps we need proof of how low some will go and all that.

is also unnecessary.  Report for what?

[Bacon King]

A few things to say here.

This has been reported and I think it comes very close to crossing the line. I want to delete this. However, I guess there's a bit of precedent regarding politicians and psychiatric disorders, such as Thomas Eagleton, and Politico did cite legitimate news organizations here when asking his questions. However, this really should belong in the megathread; after all, it was created for a reason. I'd rather not see half of the front page devolve into a bunch of Politico threads again, with each one making one specific accusation.

Also, for the record, "manic depression" hasn't medically been a thing for 32 years now; the term was changed to "bipolar disorder" by the DSM III in 1980. If you're going to be making borderline-trollish accusations, at least get your facts right plz.

But yeah, moving this thread to the megathread.

[TheGlobalizer]

A few things to say here.

This has been reported and I think it comes very close to crossing the line. I want to delete this. However, I guess there's a bit of precedent regarding politicians and psychiatric disorders, such as Thomas Eagleton, and Politico did cite legitimate news organizations here when asking his questions. However, this really should belong in the megathread; after all, it was created for a reason. I'd rather not see half of the front page devolve into a bunch of Politico threads again, with each one making one specific accusation.

Also, for the record, "manic depression" hasn't medically been a thing for 32 years now; the term was changed to "bipolar disorder" by the DSM III in 1980. If you're going to be making borderline-trollish accusations, at least get your facts right plz.

But yeah, moving this thread to the megathread.

Serious question, can you point me to some standard that is used on the board for acceptable discourse, or is this a "you know it when you see it" pornography definition?

[Bacon King]

A few things to say here.

This has been reported and I think it comes very close to crossing the line. I want to delete this. However, I guess there's a bit of precedent regarding politicians and psychiatric disorders, such as Thomas Eagleton, and Politico did cite legitimate news organizations here when asking his questions. However, this really should belong in the megathread; after all, it was created for a reason. I'd rather not see half of the front page devolve into a bunch of Politico threads again, with each one making one specific accusation.

Also, for the record, "manic depression" hasn't medically been a thing for 32 years now; the term was changed to "bipolar disorder" by the DSM III in 1980. If you're going to be making borderline-trollish accusations, at least get your facts right plz.

But yeah, moving this thread to the megathread.

Serious question, can you point me to some standard that is used on the board for acceptable discourse, or is this a "you know it when you see it" pornography definition?

"You know it when you see it"; different mods have different standards, but I usually try to err on the side of leniency unless something is way over the line.

[TheGlobalizer]

A few things to say here.

This has been reported and I think it comes very close to crossing the line. I want to delete this. However, I guess there's a bit of precedent regarding politicians and psychiatric disorders, such as Thomas Eagleton, and Politico did cite legitimate news organizations here when asking his questions. However, this really should belong in the megathread; after all, it was created for a reason. I'd rather not see half of the front page devolve into a bunch of Politico threads again, with each one making one specific accusation.

Also, for the record, "manic depression" hasn't medically been a thing for 32 years now; the term was changed to "bipolar disorder" by the DSM III in 1980. If you're going to be making borderline-trollish accusations, at least get your facts right plz.

But yeah, moving this thread to the megathread.

Serious question, can you point me to some standard that is used on the board for acceptable discourse, or is this a "you know it when you see it" pornography definition?

"You know it when you see it"; different mods have different standards, but I usually try to err on the side of leniency unless something is way over the line.

Fair enough.

[BigSkyBob]

Or will we be left to wonder if he inherited his mother's manic depression? Will we be left to wonder if mental illness was the reason why he was declared exempt from the draft? To this day, Gingrich has not clarified why he was declared exempt from the draft. Why? Why did he not follow in his father's footsteps by serving in the military like he claims he wish he had?

Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/vanityfair1.html

Sooner or later, Gingrich needs to prove that he did not inherit his mother's manic depression. The nation cannot have a sick president who cannot handle the stressful demands of the job.

It must be particularly painful to see your favored candidate lose to a person whom you believe is a nutter.

What are you asking? We sequence his mothers DNA [isn't she dead?], sequence Gingrich's DNA, determine which genes we are debating, and "prove" Gingrich didn't have those particular genes?

First, this is disgusting and pathetic.

Second, even if true, you are merely suggesting that Gingrich shares an attribute with Winston Churchill. Churchill was able to function quite well as head of state in a time of crisis though he suffered from manic depression.

[Politico]

Has any major presidential nominee of the past thirty years not released their medical records?

[Politico]

A few things to say here.

This has been reported and I think it comes very close to crossing the line. I want to delete this. However, I guess there's a bit of precedent regarding politicians and psychiatric disorders, such as Thomas Eagleton,

Yes, there is a history of a candidate hiding their medical history from the population and paying the price.

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I thought I was being kind to Gingrich by referring to it as "manic depression" rather than "bipolar disorder."

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Fair enough, but I guarantee somebody else will re-create the thread again down the line if Gingrich makes this a serious run.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I do not think medical records are what people are upset with a candidate not releasing nowadays my friend... your boy needs to get on his tax returns!

[Politico]

Or will we be left to wonder if he inherited his mother's manic depression? Will we be left to wonder if mental illness was the reason why he was declared exempt from the draft? To this day, Gingrich has not clarified why he was declared exempt from the draft. Why? Why did he not follow in his father's footsteps by serving in the military like he claims he wish he had?

Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/vanityfair1.html

Sooner or later, Gingrich needs to prove that he did not inherit his mother's manic depression. The nation cannot have a sick president who cannot handle the stressful demands of the job.

It must be particularly painful to see your favored candidate lose to a person whom you believe is a nutter.

Strom Thurmond Country going to Gingrich is really not much of a surprise to me.

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Of course not. If Gingrich has no health problems, he should have no problem releasing his medical records to show he does not have a history of bipolar disorder.

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And Adolf Hitler.

A history of mental illness is now an "attribute" we should look for in our next president? I knew some Republicans were crazy, but I did not think they were crazy enough to believe somebody with mental illness can win the presidency, let alone function properly in the role of the president for four years...

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Now do you realize how inane your argument is?

Have you ever had to associate with people who have bipolar disorder? I do not want that type of person in the Oval Office for obvious reasons.

[Oakvale]

I do not think medical records are what people are upset with a candidate not releasing nowadays my friend... your boy needs to get on his tax returns!

[Likely Voter]

I put this guy on ignore. It was my fist ignore. I thought it would hide all his stupid threads but alas they remain. 

[Politico]

I do not think medical records are what people are upset with a candidate not releasing nowadays my friend... your boy needs to get on his tax returns!

Why the wealth of a candidate does not matter (i.e., richest president ever):



Why the health of a candidate matters (i.e., the presidency is the most demanding job on the planet):

[Penelope]

Don't you already have a thread for this crap?

EDIT: OH HEY I WAS RIGHT LOLOLOL

[Politico]

Somebody moved my question, but here it is: Has any presidential nominee in the past thirty years NOT released their medical records?

I cannot think of anybody, but I would like to hear if there is somebody who kept their medical records under lock-and-key.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I'll be putting a post in here... basically pointing out why Romney is in this mess.

And it is all his own creation...

[Politico]

Especially when you consider that Gingrich is from neighboring Georgia, and no northeastern ("yankee") candidate in the Democratic Party, let alone the Republican Party, has ever won the South Carolina primaries before.

[Vote UKIP!]

Trolls gonna troll.

[Politico]

Trolls gonna troll.

When your post count exceeds mine, then you can accuse me of trolling. The question is only common sense. Somebody from Massachusetts winning South Carolina against somebody from Georgia would be like somebody from Mississippi winning Vermont against somebody from Connecticut.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Yeah, Politico! Insult the most reliably GOP part of the nation! That will go over well in Florida!

[Politico]

Yeah, Politico! Insult the most reliably GOP part of the nation! That will go over well in Florida!

I have done no such thing. I have simply explained why South Carolina has never gone to a northeasterner from either party. I am not making any judgments. They have their identity elements just like every other region of the country.

[Vote UKIP!]

Trolls gonna troll.

[BigSkyBob]

Has any major presidential nominee of the past thirty years not released their medical records?

Bill Clinton.

[Penelope]

Trolls gonna troll.

When your post count exceeds mine, then you can accuse me of trolling. The question is only common sense. Somebody from Massachusetts winning South Carolina against somebody from Georgia would be like somebody from Mississippi winning Vermont against somebody from Connecticut.

Quantity does not matter. What really matters is quality. The quality of your posts has been somewhat poor.

[BigSkyBob]

Or will we be left to wonder if he inherited his mother's manic depression? Will we be left to wonder if mental illness was the reason why he was declared exempt from the draft? To this day, Gingrich has not clarified why he was declared exempt from the draft. Why? Why did he not follow in his father's footsteps by serving in the military like he claims he wish he had?

Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/vanityfair1.html

Sooner or later, Gingrich needs to prove that he did not inherit his mother's manic depression. The nation cannot have a sick president who cannot handle the stressful demands of the job.

It must be particularly painful to see your favored candidate lose to a person whom you believe is a nutter.

Strom Thurmond Country going to Gingrich is really not much of a surprise to me.

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Of course not. If Gingrich has no health problems, he should have no problem releasing his medical records to show he does not have a history of bipolar disorder.

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And Adolf Hitler.

A history of mental illness is now an "attribute" we should look for in our next president? I knew some Republicans were crazy, but I did not think they were crazy enough to believe somebody with mental illness can win the presidency, let alone function properly in the role of the president for four years...

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Now do you realize how inane your argument is?

Have you ever had to associate with people who have bipolar disorder? I do not want that type of person in the Oval Office for obvious reasons.

I see you have chosen to combine the ad hominem fallacy with the ad Hitler fallacy.

Again, Churchill suffered from manic depression. You don't dispute that fact. Again, Churchill was able to govern effectively in a time of crisis in spite of suffering from manic depression. You don't dispute that fact either. Instead, you give some ad hominem tripe about how, "Now do you realize how inane your argument is?"

Do you?