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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« on: December 02, 2011, 02:55:07 PM »

This is so 2005. The ACLU forgot that most of the left wing no longer cares about war or Guantanemo or detention or anything like that since Obama.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 03:39:05 PM »

This is so 2005. The ACLU forgot that most of the left wing no longer cares about war or Guantanemo or detention or anything like that since Obama.
If you read the article, it was Diane Feinstein that offered an amendment to bar the military from arresting American citizens indefinitely.  It failed 45-55.  The "compromise" status quo bill passed 99-1.

Perhaps you should realize that most politicians support fascist policies like this, and rather than relying on the left to uphold American freedoms, you should encourage your own party to do the same.

I was not really referring to politicians, nor do I particularly care about the people locked in Guantanemo one way or another.

The bulk of the whining liberals, of course, used to holler like madmen and accuse President Bush of fascism. Now they'll merely bury a comment about 'disappointment' on the bottom of their blog page and try to move on to another issue just as Senate Democrats will do here. Hence of course the 'utter lack of discussion'.

Quite a change in attitude! And a good one, too; now that the whining liberals no longer make a significant fuss, we can deal with terrorists more easily.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 09:12:54 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2011, 09:14:27 PM by krazen1211 »

This isn't a partisan or "left/right" issue, in case you totally missed my point. But to elaborate: It's not like the Patriot Act or Military Commissions Act or Guantanamo are gone (and yes, Obama claimed to oppose the last one but that was pretty quickly abandoned). They're still very much around. On the other hand, under Obama we've had serious attempts at clamping down on the internet and "extra judicial killings" including of US citizens. The US has never been as friendly towards civil rights as it likes to claim but it seems like a pretty obvious rapid downhill slope since 2001. And don't tell me we ended renditions because even middle of the road milquetoasts like Politifact will tell you that's not really true.


Lol, what? Have you forgotten Executive Order 9066 or Bobby Kennedy's wiretapping? Or for that matter Ex Parte Merryman.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 10:31:34 AM »

Passed and to be signed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress-sends-defense-bill-to-obama-after-reworking-detainee-provisions/2011/12/15/gIQAh1vhwO_story.html

The $662 billion defense authorization bill was approved by the Senate 86 to 13 one day after the White House withdrew its threat to veto the measure over several controversial detainee provisions. The White House said those provisions would have been an infringement on its executive power. The bill overwhelmingly passed the House on Wednesday 283 to 136.





The ACLU is bleating its sadface jokes again and life goes on.
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