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Mr.Phips
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« on: December 02, 2011, 10:27:18 PM »

I have been thinking recently about past redistricting plans that went awry, with members targetted for defeat by the opposite party in redistricting ended up surviving.

In 2002, Republicans thought they had ended the career of Tim Holden in Pennsylvania by putting him in the same district of Republican George Gekas that favored Gekas.  They also thought they had done in Joe Hoeffel by depriving him of heavily Democratic Lower Merion Township in Montgomery County. 

In North Carolina, Democrats thought they had finished off Robin Hayes by adding a heavily black part of Charlotte to his district while taking away most of heavily Republican Union county. 

In 1992, Kentucky Democrats thought they had done in Republicans Hal Rogers and Jim Bunning by adding a ton of new territory in heavily Democratic coal country.

Going back to 1982, Republicans in Pennsylvania thought they had done in Doug Walgren by packing his district with the most Republican parts of Allegheny county.  They also thought they had done in Bob Edgar by extending his district further into suburban Delaware county and giving his most Democratic precincts to one of the Philly distircts. 

In Indiana, they thought they had finally beaten Phil Sharp by adding a heavily Republican part of Marion county to his district. 

In 1970  in New York, Republicans thought they had made Jim Hanley's district unwinnable for him by splitting Syracuse right down the middle and giving him some heavily Republican rural areas.

Can anyone else think of examples?



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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 11:09:55 PM »

Chet Edwards in 2004, thought it took a few cycles for him to be defeated after that.



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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 01:20:15 AM »

Newt Gingrich. They tried to get rid of him in 91. He moved to a new district and the old district went to Mac Collins anyways.

In 01, they tried to get rid of Saxby Chambliss, which was a mistake as I would rather have a senator cleland and rep chambliss than a senator chambliss and rep marshall. They also tried to get rid of Bob Barr but Phil Gingrey was still elected to his old seat.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 01:22:27 AM »

Rinaldo [R-NJ] [?] in New Jersey survived the 1982 Democratic gerrymander. He was given a district in the 1984 remap.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 02:17:20 PM »

There are a couple of examples in Texas after the mid-decade redistricting:
The aforementioned Chet Edwards, who lasted until the 2010 tidal wave while being George W. Bush's rep.
Gene Green and Lloyd Doggett, both put in Hispanic-majority seats, who ended up holding their seats despite being intended to be primaried out.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 02:25:27 PM »

There are a couple of examples in Texas after the mid-decade redistricting:
The aforementioned Chet Edwards, who lasted until the 2010 tidal wave while being George W. Bush's rep.
Gene Green and Lloyd Doggett, both put in Hispanic-majority seats, who ended up holding their seats despite being intended to be primaried out.
Green has held a Hispanic-opportunity district since his first election. It's gotten more and more Hispanic since, but that's more demographic change than anything.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 02:30:13 PM »

After the 2000 redistricting, Georgia's 11th and 12th districts were both drawn to be Democratic seats. In 2002, though, both districts narrowly elected Republicans: Gingrey narrowly won the 11th District because the mapmakers overreached badly (it voted 51% for Bush in 2000), while Max Burns was handed a relatively easy victory in the 12th District when the Democrats nominated a guy with some significant ethical baggage.

Burns lost to a non-corrupt Democrat (John Barrow) in 2004, so that district eventually served it's "intended" purpose. Gingrey managed to hold on, though, and he was given a safe district the map was redrawn in 2006. Ultimately, it turns out that Georgia Democrats crafted this monstrosity for no absolutely reason at all.

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 04:54:05 PM »

After the 2000 redistricting, Georgia's 11th and 12th districts were both drawn to be Democratic seats. In 2002, though, both districts narrowly elected Republicans: Gingrey narrowly won the 11th District because the mapmakers overreached badly (it voted 51% for Bush in 2000), while Max Burns was handed a relatively easy victory in the 12th District when the Democrats nominated a guy with some significant ethical baggage.

Burns lost to a non-corrupt Democrat (John Barrow) in 2004, so that district eventually served it's "intended" purpose. Gingrey managed to hold on, though, and he was given a safe district the map was redrawn in 2006. Ultimately, it turns out that Georgia Democrats crafted this monstrosity for no absolutely reason at all.



yep, Georgia democrats aren't too bright. Let's hope they don't make the same mistake the next time they have control of the lege.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 08:21:15 PM »

There are a couple of examples in Texas after the mid-decade redistricting:
The aforementioned Chet Edwards, who lasted until the 2010 tidal wave while being George W. Bush's rep.
Gene Green and Lloyd Doggett, both put in Hispanic-majority seats, who ended up holding their seats despite being intended to be primaried out.
Green has held a Hispanic-opportunity district since his first election. It's gotten more and more Hispanic since, but that's more demographic change than anything.
The 1st primary (in 1992) was between Gene Green and Ben Reyes and ended up being redone.  Green has not been challenged since.  Gene Green was a state senator, as was Eddie Bernice Johnson, and both just happened to be elected from the new seats 29 and 30.

Green is from north Houston and included enough the area to get him elected.   The district has generally been expanded to the east.
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