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Who is the stronger candidate?
Hector Balderas
2 (14.3%)
Martin Heinrich
12 (85.7%)
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Total Voters: 14
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Ogre Mage
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NM-Sen-Dem Primary
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December 19, 2011, 10:14:40 pm »
Unlike other Senate primaries where DSCC chair Murray has bluntly played kingmaker, she has done a more delicate dance in this race. But there is little secret The Powers That Be favor a certain candidate. What do you think?
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redcommander
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Re: NM-Sen-Dem Primary
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December 19, 2011, 10:17:35 pm »
Definately it's Heinrich. If Balderas makes it through, it moves to a toss up race against Wilson.
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RogueBeaver
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December 19, 2011, 10:22:09 pm »
Huh? She said Heinrich's her candidate a couple of weeks ago.
Also, what redcommander said. I have a feeling Balderas' weaker numbers might be name ID though.
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Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
redcommander
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Quote from: RogueBeaver on December 19, 2011, 10:22:09 pm
Huh? She said Heinrich's her candidate a couple of weeks ago.
Also, what redcommander said. I have a feeling Balderas' weaker numbers might be name ID though.
He's much more liberal than Heinrich which even though New Mexico has gotten more Dem friendly recently, will probably turn off a lot of swing voters.
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RogueBeaver
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Quote from: redcommander on December 19, 2011, 10:26:47 pm
Quote from: RogueBeaver on December 19, 2011, 10:22:09 pm
Huh? She said Heinrich's her candidate a couple of weeks ago.
Also, what redcommander said. I have a feeling Balderas' weaker numbers might be name ID though.
He's much more liberal than Heinrich which even though New Mexico has gotten more Dem friendly recently, will probably turn off a lot of swing voters.
Depends how well he can sell it, but if his numbers keep creeping up Heinrich should get worried. DSCC is not going to intervene outright IMO, as they're doing in Hawaii.
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Quote from: Peternerdman on December 31, 2012, 03:34:54 pm
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
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Yes, Hawaii is an example of the DSCC/Establishment much more blatantly playing favorites. I can see why they are treading more carefully here, though they favor Heinrich.
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December 19, 2011, 11:42:25 pm »
Am I correct in assuming that the favorite in Hawaii is Hirono? If it's Case I have lost all hope for my party, at least for this cycle.
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Quote from: Nathan on December 19, 2011, 11:42:25 pm
Am I correct in assuming that the favorite in Hawaii is Hirono? If it's Case I have lost all hope for my party, at least for this cycle.
The polls I have seen, with the exception of Case's internal polling, show Hirono leading in the primary. Akaka and Inouye are officially neutral. Unofficially, they are totally backing Hirono. Murray, of course, is openly backing Hirono:
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Murray made her support for Hirono, who is facing off with former Rep. Ed Case in the Hawaii primary, clear. "I'm supporting Mazie, and I believe she's going to win," said Murray.
That the DSCC is backing Hirono is no surprise. Back in August, DSCC executive director Guy Cecil accused Case of not "being honest" with a poll his campaign released.
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/12/dscc-briefing-r.php#more
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Re: NM-Sen-Dem Primary
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Quote from: Ogre Mage on December 20, 2011, 01:42:01 am
Quote from: Nathan on December 19, 2011, 11:42:25 pm
Am I correct in assuming that the favorite in Hawaii is Hirono? If it's Case I have lost all hope for my party, at least for this cycle.
The polls I have seen, with the exception of Case's internal polling, show Hirono leading in the primary. Akaka and Inouye are officially neutral. Unofficially, they are totally backing Hirono. Murray, of course, is openly backing Hirono:
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Hawaii:
Murray made her support for Hirono, who is facing off with former Rep. Ed Case in the Hawaii primary, clear. "I'm supporting Mazie, and I believe she's going to win," said Murray.
That the DSCC is backing Hirono is no surprise. Back in August, DSCC executive director Guy Cecil accused Case of not "being honest" with a poll his campaign released.
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/12/dscc-briefing-r.php#more
Good, the last thing we needed was another right-wing Democrat from a solid blue state. We already have Carper and Lieberman.
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Lieberman is not a Democrat.
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Quote from: redcommander on December 19, 2011, 10:26:47 pm
Quote from: RogueBeaver on December 19, 2011, 10:22:09 pm
Huh? She said Heinrich's her candidate a couple of weeks ago.
Also, what redcommander said. I have a feeling Balderas' weaker numbers might be name ID though.
He's much more liberal than Heinrich which even though New Mexico has gotten more Dem friendly recently, will probably turn off a lot of swing voters.
How Balderas is more liberal than Heinrich? If anything it's the latter one that made waves by announcing his support for gay marriage.
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