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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2016, 10:35:07 pm »
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What factions do the candidates represent?
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2016, 03:16:14 pm »
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Confirmed: Ouellet in on Friday.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2016, 10:51:15 am »
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Cloutier: referendum plank depends on sufficient mobilization. If he's a kangaroo, then Ouellet's a caribou.

Vote will be Oct. 5-7.

$20k filing fee, 1500 signatures.
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2016, 04:26:14 pm »
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the deadline for candidacies is June 30th.

The vote will be by phone or internet October 5th to 7th by ranking the candidates.

There will be two debates in September. The spending limit for candidates is $200,000.
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2016, 08:55:50 pm »
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What factions do the candidates represent?

Oullet is the most avowedly separatist I believe. Lisee is in favour of the party becoming more open to immigrants and Anglos. He also most critical of the Charter of Values. Cloutier is in the middle and I believe is relatively left wing on economics.

I don't know anything about Hivon. Perhaps RB can comment or correct misconceptions?
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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2016, 11:51:20 am »
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Hivon is pretty much a female version of Cloutier, but with a more social outlook (she is mainly known for co-chairing the committee on medical end of life (under Charest) and then for pushing the law in Cabinet as a minister. Also less committed to a referendum as early as possible than Cloutier, but more than Lisee (who said he would wait until his 2nd term to do so).
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2016, 12:08:06 pm »
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In practice of course, no referenda for the foreseeable future. PQ's structural problems are far more immediate, but I don't think any contender has a workable solution for that. IMO, no one on either side has had that sort of political skill since Bourassa.
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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2016, 05:43:16 am »
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MacPherson on Lisée, who again might have trouble qualifying.
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« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2016, 11:27:17 am »
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LOL: Marceau is proposing that a PQ government hold a 2021 referendum with beau risque, i.e. renewed federalism, as the other option. With a Trudeau as PM. You can't make this crap up.

Cloutier has the sigs.
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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2016, 09:54:01 am »
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Could one of you Canadians rank the candidates on these three spectrums :

Federalism (or let's say moderate separatism) ---> Harsh separatism
Inclusion ---> Racism
Economically conservative (or liberal in a France sense) ---> Economically progressive (or liberal in a US sense)

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I haven't seen anything pointing to a Brexit win at this point, when you factor in how a referendum actually works.

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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2016, 10:00:45 am »
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What Max and DC said. There are hardly any differences between the candidates, and there's a lot of Cloutier/Hivon support overlap.
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2016, 01:26:26 pm »
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Léger has Cloutier at 37%, Lisée 15%, Hivon 14%, Ouellet 7%. Referendum positions are a wash, and Cloutier has been endorsed by 12 of 19 possible caucus members.

Hivon and Lisée both proposing reforms to doctors' pay.
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