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« Reply #1400 on: May 07, 2015, 03:42:38 pm »
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Netanyahu was trying to peel off Orly Levy even before the election. I imagine she will eventually switch. Especially now that her brother is a Likud MK.

Making it 62. Still, better than 61 Smiley
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« Reply #1401 on: May 07, 2015, 04:19:56 pm »
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Netanyahu was trying to peel off Orly Levy even before the election. I imagine she will eventually switch. Especially now that her brother is a Likud MK.
No she won't, not after he gave a veto on giving her the vocation knesset committee when they still negotiated. It's more likely Liberman will use her brother and other proxies to wreck havoc at the likud ranks.

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Labor announces it will not "pair off" with the government to absent during votes (the common practice under which if a government MK is not able to make it to the vote, he agrees with an opposition MK to do the same, not to exploit the absence).  Lapid is saying he is going to sue in order to prevent the government changin the law limiting the cabinet to 18 ministers. And Likud's wn Ayoub Kara says that unless a Druze (that is himself) is appointed a minister, he will break with the coalition
Labour has the option to really make the coalition's life a living hell if they make the opposition work together. Lapid is an idiot (but we already knew it), the SC will kick him down its stairs.

In other news, soon to be minister of justice MK Shaked wants to change the judges election process and restrict judicial constitutional review. I for one am not that opposed in contrast to the Pavlovian response by the rest of the left.
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« Reply #1402 on: May 14, 2015, 06:03:45 pm »
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And the makeup of Netanyahu's government has been announced, and this is how it will look, at least for the first few months. Netanyahu will have three positions besides PM -- he is also Minister of Communications, Foreign Affairs, and Health (along with Regional Cooperation, which is more of a title than a position with any real power). The last two are rumored to be reserved for any additional party (probably YB) who intends to join the coalition government anytime later.

Prime Minister: Binyamin Netanyahu (Likud)
Minister of Agriculture: Uri Ariel (Jewish Home)
Minister of Communications: Binyamin Netanyahu (Likud)
Minister of Construction: Yoav Galant (Kulanu)
Minister of Culture: Miri Regev (Likud)
Minister of Defense: Moshe Ya'alon (Likud)
Minister for the Development of the Negev and Galilee: Aryeh Deri (Shas)
Minister of the Economy: Aryeh Deri (Shas)
Minister of Education: Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home)
Minister of Energy: Yuval Steinitz (Likud)
Minister of Environmental Protection: Avi Gabai (Kulanu) -- not a Knesset member, Kulanu party president
Minister of Finance: Moshe Kachlon (Kulanu)
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Binyamin Netanyahu (Likud)
Minister of Gender Equality: Gila Gamliel (Likud) -- new position?
Minister of Health: Binyamin Netanyahu (Likud)
Minister of Immigrant Absorption: Ze'ev Elkin (Likud)
Minister of Intelligence: Yisrael Katz (Likud)
Minister of Internal Affairs: Silvan Shalom (Likud)
Minister of Justice: Ayelet Shaked (Jewish Home)
Minister of Pensioner Affairs: Gila Gamliel (Likud)
Minister of Public Diplomacy & Diaspora Affairs: Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home)
Minister of Public Security: Yariv Levin (Likud)
Minister of Religious Affairs: David Azulai (Shas)
Minister of Regional Cooperation: Binyamin Netanyahu (Likud)
Minister of Science: Danny Danon (Likud)
Minister of Strategic Affairs: Ze'ev Elkin (Likud)
Minister of Tourism: Yariv Levin (Likud)
Minister of Transportation: Yisrael Katz (Likud)
Minister of Welfare: Haim Katz (Likud)
Minister(s) without Portfolio: Ofir Akunis (Likud), Benny Begin (Likud)

Most ministers have more than one title (which reflects the abundance of titles that Israel has created over the past ten years more than anything else), but two ministers without portfolio were still appointed. Counting Netanyahu himself and the ministers without portfolio, there are 13 Likud ministers, 3 Kulanu ministers, 3 Jewish Home ministers, and 2 Shas ministers.

Notably, #2 on the Likud list, Gilad Erdan, demanded the Foreign Affairs position and refused to take any other. After having been in Cabinet for six years, Erdan is retreating to the backbenches. #3, Yuli-Yoel Edelstein, naturally did not take a position as he is the Speaker of the Knesset. #4-17 all received posts except Tzachi Hanegbi (a long-time Knesset member who will chair several choice committees instead) and David Bitan, the highest-ranked freshman on the Likud list. Kulanu appointed #1-2 and the party president. Jewish Home appointed #1-3. Notably, the two ministers from Shas will be party leader Aryeh Deri (#1, obviously) and David Azulai, who was only #5 on the list and has never been in Cabinet despite having been in the Knesset since 1996, or for 19 years, throughout most of which his party was part of the government.

Outside of the government, Yitzhak Herzog was confirmed to be Leader of the Opposition.
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« Reply #1403 on: May 14, 2015, 07:25:50 pm »
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Why is there a minister of economy and a minister of finance? Was that always the case?
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« Reply #1404 on: May 14, 2015, 08:08:08 pm »
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seems like a ridiculously large cabinet for a such a small country!
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« Reply #1405 on: May 14, 2015, 08:26:49 pm »
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Why is there a minister of economy and a minister of finance? Was that always the case?

This is a ministry that has grown in importance over the years. Originally founded as the ministry of Industry, it later added control over trade and Labour, and was named the ministry of Industry trade and Labour. In 2013 when Bennet became the minister he changed the name to economy to make it simpler and sound more important.
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« Reply #1406 on: May 14, 2015, 08:51:23 pm »
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Regarding Gamliel,  she only has one ministry, which will be a continuation of the ministry for pensioners affairs originally created for the pensioners party. It has now been given extra responsibilities, and Gamliel is currently being called the minister of gender equality, minority equality, and advancement of youth and and senior citizens. This is placeholder name that will be changed to something of more reasonable length.
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« Reply #1407 on: May 14, 2015, 09:00:52 pm »
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Wow. Danny Dannon got a ministry. I guess with a 1 seat majority, Bibi wants to make sure he doesn't rebel.
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« Reply #1408 on: May 14, 2015, 09:19:33 pm »
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So, just to sum up for the record.

Shas gets: ministry of Economy (Deri), Ministry for Development, Negev and Galilee (Deri), ministry of Religious Affairs (Azulai), Deputy Minister of Education (Nahari), Deputy Minister of Finance (Cohen), a deputy speaker, and the chairmanship of the Education Committee of the Knesset.

UTJ gets: Deputy Minister of Health (Litzman - for the moment, the de facto minister behind Netanyahu), Deputy minister of Education (Porush), a deputy speaker, chairmanship of the finance committee and  the chairmanship of Science and Space committee.

The only "Russian" in the cabinet is Elkin (Immigration and Absorption and "strategic affairs")  - and, of course, Edelstein is the Speaker.

Cute.

I want to see the budget.
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« Reply #1409 on: May 15, 2015, 02:06:13 am »
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BB was forced to give some more posts in the defence cabinet (shaked, Katz, Elkin) so he'll probaly had some more members and then create an alternative smaller defence cabinet (probably reserving Begin for that).

At the ministries BB took to himself each will have a deputy who will de facto organize it. Hotobly at the foreign affairs, Litzman at health, Akoonis at the communication (although titled as a minister), and Aiub Kara at regional cooperation.
Speaking of Aiub Kara...he threatened not to support the new government unless he gets a chair. On the Thursday morning he staged a fake hospitalization with him being led by a stretcher, needless to say he was perfectly healthy several hours later when he got the post...

BTW this new government structure will allow a change with Labour stepping in at any time, JH ministries plus Foreign Affairs will go to them.
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« Reply #1410 on: May 15, 2015, 03:49:35 am »
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If Labour steps in JH steps out?!
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« Reply #1411 on: May 15, 2015, 07:01:03 am »
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If Labour steps in JH steps out?!
Yes.

On a left wing POV the worse bit of this government is that appointment of Ben Dahan as deputy Minister of Defence with authority on the Israeli Civil Administration. That body practically runs the lives of Palestinians in the West Bank and has direct control on all land planning there. Needless to say giving control over that function to a far-right character who compared Palestinians to animals in the past will not help this gunpowder barrel waiting to explode.
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« Reply #1412 on: May 15, 2015, 07:18:47 am »
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How is the ZU holding up in opposition? No cracks as of yet?
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« Reply #1413 on: May 15, 2015, 07:51:50 am »
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How is the ZU holding up in opposition? No cracks as of yet?
Part for a little scene with Yechimovic saying she's against maintaining a joint leadership (Herzog-Livni) past the elections, Alles gut.
It will get more interesting later this year when they have a leadership race
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« Reply #1414 on: May 16, 2015, 03:44:40 am »
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How is the ZU holding up in opposition? No cracks as of yet?
Part for a little scene with Yechimovic saying she's against maintaining a joint leadership (Herzog-Livni) past the elections, Alles gut.
It will get more interesting later this year when they have a leadership race
Any new talk of Labor going in a new direction. I'm sure they're not dumb and realize that having a defense oriented leader is more electable...
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« Reply #1415 on: May 16, 2015, 09:19:01 pm »
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How is the ZU holding up in opposition? No cracks as of yet?
Part for a little scene with Yechimovic saying she's against maintaining a joint leadership (Herzog-Livni) past the elections, Alles gut.
It will get more interesting later this year when they have a leadership race
Any new talk of Labor going in a new direction. I'm sure they're not dumb and realize that having a defense oriented leader is more electable...

So far, reviews of Herzog as opposition leader are excellent. He has been making forceful anti-Netanyahu speeches and has overshadowed all other major opposition figures. For the moment, he looks very credible and safer than ever before.
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« Reply #1416 on: May 18, 2015, 06:01:04 am »
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How is the ZU holding up in opposition? No cracks as of yet?
Part for a little scene with Yechimovic saying she's against maintaining a joint leadership (Herzog-Livni) past the elections, Alles gut.
It will get more interesting later this year when they have a leadership race
Any new talk of Labor going in a new direction. I'm sure they're not dumb and realize that having a defense oriented leader is more electable...
Ron Holdai (Tel Aviv mayor, former IAF colonel) stated he is thinking of running for leadership, I think he can appeal to YA voters style a bit more. The only suitable ex-def candidates are either Diskin and maybe Ganz, so far quite on that section. We'll have to wait and see but personally I think 26-7 is Labour ceiling right now even with an ex-gen, to rise above this has more to do with Likud losing than whoever Labour fields.
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