Which of these two changes is more likely for a libertarian?

[greenforest32]

?

[© tweed]

obviously option two.  Dr Paul, the concurrent elder statesman and standard-bearer, even runs pro-fetus ads in Iowa.

[greenforest32]

obviously option two.  Dr Paul, the concurrent elder statesman and standard-bearer, even runs pro-fetus ads in Iowa.

Ron Paul has never really struck me as a consistent libertarian. His stances on gay marriage/DOMA and abortion don't seem very libertarian (even Gary Johnson is better than Paul on these) and he seems quite fine with authoritarianism on the state level

[Franzl]

Obviously a "true" libertarian would not sacrifice any of his principles. Why should he?

In practice, of course, a lot of libertarians are merely somewhat conservative Republicans that either want to be different or misjudge their own views.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Obviously a "true" libertarian would not sacrifice any of his principles. Why should he?

In practice, of course, a lot of libertarians are merely somewhat conservative Republicans that either want to be different or misjudge their own views.

[Napoleon]

This reminds me of when Marokai kept trying to troll me by referring to me as a libertarian.

[ZuWo]

At least on the issue of abortion a libertarian can certainly give up his liberal views and be socially conservative. If one accepts the notion that life begins at conception - and there are libertarians who think so - it is actually inconsistent to support abortion and therefore be socially liberal on this issue.

[tpfkaw]

I don't know of too many people who shifted away from rather than towards libertarianism; I can think of Dana Rohrabacher and Bruce Bartlett off the top of my head, a political whore and an attention whore, respectively.  I find that about equal numbers of libertarians started off as either American "conservatives" or "liberals."

[phk]

Social issues are easier so...

[courts]

Well that depends on what you call a "libertarian." From experience an awful lot of "anarcho-capitalists" seem to become liberals as they age for some bizarre reason but they also tend to be 14 years old.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The vast majority care more about the rights of big business than the rights of the common man. When they conflict, they side with the former.

[nclib]

Alas, libertarians tend to care more about economic issues than social issues, so Option 2.

Idealistically, Option 1 would make more sense, since if one wants freedom, one should start with the most intimate aspects of our lives (sex, speech, religious prefence, etc.) before concerning oneself with actions of big businesses.

[Leftbehind]

The vast majority care more about the rights of big business than the rights of the common man. When they conflict, they side with the former.

This.

[courts]

Alas, libertarians tend to care more about economic issues than social issues, so Option 2.

No, actual libertarians make no sense arbitrary distinctions.

[Marokai Backbeat]

The vast majority care more about the rights of big business than the rights of the common man. When they conflict, they side with the former.

This.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The vast majority care more about the rights of big business than the rights of the common man. When they conflict, they side with the former.

This.

Yeah, I think you summed it up perfectly.

[dead0man]

Hey look, the weekly thread full of non-libertarians explaining libertarians to each other!

[Associate Justice PiT]

Hey look, the weekly thread full of non-libertarians explaining libertarians to each other!

     Their explanations also serve as a self-fulfilling prophecy. When the left makes it undying hatred of libertarianism clear at every opportunity, one has to wonder what manner of masochism would drive a libertarian to actually consider buddying with the left.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

We have some posters here that fall in the first category (Morgan, Windis).