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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2011, 02:32:46 pm »
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What's up with the polling for the "others"? are these Green votes? Why so many? Who else do they want to vote for? Did they mid up the name on the newly named Wildrose party with their former name as the Alliance? This is confusing for me.
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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2011, 02:47:13 pm »
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Ugh, linking to an Eric Grenier link... I think there should be rules against such things.
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2011, 06:48:44 pm »
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Peter Lougheed was sworn in, Sep 10th 1971

George A. Drew, from the Ontario PC Party, was sworn in August 17th 1943, and his party held power until the resignation (after losing an election) of Premier Miller on June 26th 1985. Some of these were minority governments.

Quebec Liberal Premier Marchand was sworn in on the 24th of May, 1897, and Liberal Godbout resigned after losing an election on August 28th 1936.

These are some of the longest lasting political dynasties in Canada. Even Alberta's Social Credit government did not last this long.

The Ontario PC dynasty lasted for 41 years, 10 months, 9 days, or, 15,289 days.

The Quebec Liberal dynasty, lasted 39 years, 3 months, 4 days, or, 14,340 days.

The current Alberta dynasty is 40 years, 3 months, 16 days old, or, 14,717 days.

Nova Scotia, however, puts all of this to shame. On August 3rd 1883, William T Pipes became Premier, and this dynasty did not end until the election loss of Premier Armstrong, following which he resigned on July 16th, 1925. This is 41 years, 11 months, and 13 days, or, 15,322 days. Not that much you say?

Let me do a quick *reverse* calculation, from pre-Stanfield Nova Scotia. Starting with Stanfield became Premier, and ending (or reverse) at the first post-confederation election, a period passed of 89 years, 1 months, 13 days. A total of 32,551 days. Now we add two period. October 22 1878 to July 18 1882, as well as July 16 1925 to September 5 1933. This is 2973 days plus 1365 days, or, a total of 4338, which leaves a remainder of 28,213. Why is this important?
For 28,213 days, out of 32,551 days, the Nova Scotia Liberals held a majority government. 86.6% of a full 89 years, spent with one party holding a Majority. Now that's a dynasty that won't be easy to beat.

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If the PC Party retains a majority on Thursday, August 22, 2013, they will beat the record for the longest lasting unbroken government in Canada.
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2011, 07:59:12 pm »
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some news about social credit party?
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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2011, 08:46:00 pm »
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some news about social credit party?

1935-1971 under 3 premiers. William Aberhart (1935-1943), Ernest Manning (1943-1968), Harry Strom (1968-1971).
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« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2011, 10:19:15 pm »
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No? Should there be? They are useless.
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2012, 02:00:28 pm »
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Flanagan will run the Wildrose campaign.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/tom-flanagan-to-run-wildrose-campaign-in-alberta-election/article2312499/
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2012, 03:56:45 pm »
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A great strategist who will be able to maximise the Wildrose vote. His close relationship with Harper also sends a message to blue tories which party they should support.

On my phone at the moment, anyone got those poll details referred to in the article? I note it's Forum, and mentions PC and Wildrose vote levels, and mentions the NDP is up, but doesn't give actual figures for them and the Liberals.
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2012, 04:12:15 pm »
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PC 38, Wildrose 29, Liberal 14, NDP 13. I saw a seat projection somewhere, all I remember is that PCs would win 57/87, down 9 from their current 66. Trying to find it now...
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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2012, 04:24:58 pm »
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Those projected totals were also in the article, mate. I just trust Teddy and Earl more.
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2012, 04:31:27 pm »
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As do I. So much attack ad material for Wildrose to use...
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2012, 04:46:35 pm »
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As do I. So much attack ad material for Wildrose to use...

Indeed. I note Redford's approvals/disapprovals are a mere +1.

It's interesting the Liberals have pulled back ahead of the NDP in the poll. Inside MOE and all that but still interesting nonetheless.

I wish we had some notional figures of the last election but in the new/redistributed seats. Do we have a Krago version of the Bat Signal?
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2012, 03:13:33 pm »
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Update: While the popular vote wildly fluctuates, the Progs are still projected to win another landslide.

Oh, and they also happen to be corrupt.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/02/20120221-123135.html
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2012, 03:30:37 pm »
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Sponsorship Scandal, the sequel? They could title it "Gomery Goes to Edmonton"
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2012, 03:36:54 pm »
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Somewhat like Rick Perry's administration. Pay-to-play, abuse of eminent domain, shady (in this case illegal) fundraising, etc. PCs have been involved in this sort of crap for years but only recently did they get a real opposition. At this rate Smith's best bet is to go for an "you had an option, ma'am" if they hold a debate. Plus the Progs are embarking on yet another spending orgy for electoral purposes as we speak.
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2012, 03:42:36 pm »
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Latest numbers are PC 38, Wildrose 30, NDP/Grits 14. Translated that means the PCs gain seats, but Wildrose forms OO. GAH.
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2012, 02:57:55 pm »
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PCs run an attack ad. The Progs are just as nannyish as Dad, no wonder she's BFF with him.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/03/20120308-100835.html
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« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2012, 03:01:24 am »
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Latest numbers are PC 38, Wildrose 30, NDP/Grits 14. Translated that means the PCs gain seats, but Wildrose forms OO. GAH.

What's wrong with two conservative parties leading the province?
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« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2012, 10:49:08 am »
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Latest numbers are PC 38, Wildrose 30, NDP/Grits 14. Translated that means the PCs gain seats, but Wildrose forms OO. GAH.

What's wrong with two conservative parties leading the province?

There's nothing conservative about the Progressives.
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« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2012, 04:37:16 pm »
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Latest numbers are PC 38, Wildrose 30, NDP/Grits 14. Translated that means the PCs gain seats, but Wildrose forms OO. GAH.

What's wrong with two conservative parties leading the province?

There's nothing conservative about the Progressives.

The Wildrosers can still pull out a win.
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« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2012, 04:54:05 pm »
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Latest numbers are PC 38, Wildrose 30, NDP/Grits 14. Translated that means the PCs gain seats, but Wildrose forms OO. GAH.

What's wrong with two conservative parties leading the province?

There's nothing conservative about the Progressives.



The Wildrosers can still pull out a win.

I hope, but not very hopeful ATM.
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« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2012, 04:51:40 pm »
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Dissolution in a few weeks.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Tory%2Bwoes%2Bdelay%2Belection%2Bcall/6284271/story.html
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« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2012, 08:22:52 pm »
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The election has to be held before Jan 1
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The election has to be held before Jan 1

You mean June 1. Redford said dissolution will follow the budget (just like Quebec), so within a month the campaign should kick off. I'm not very hopeful about the corrupt Progs being booted, or even their majority being substantially dented.
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« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2012, 08:31:39 pm »
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The election has to be held before Jan 1

You mean June 1. Redford said dissolution will follow the budget (just like Quebec), so within a month the campaign should kick off. I'm not very hopeful about the corrupt Progs being booted, or even their majority being substantially dented.

Oops, yes. I hope they wait until after the NDP leadership race.

(still hoping Smid makes the redistributed results)
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