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« on: December 11, 2011, 04:51:51 AM »
« edited: January 19, 2012, 11:29:56 PM by Assemblyman & Queen Mum Inks.LWC »

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 05:47:09 AM »

Fellow Assemblymen, a few points need explaining.

First of all, I'm generally against raising taxes since I want our economy to remain prosperous. That's why I remain strongly opposed to the idea of raising taxes on businesses and hard-working people. However, I regard a tax hike on marijuana as justifiable for three main reasons:

- There may be a certain prevention effect when it becomes more expensive to buy marijuana
- Our region can use the additional money for the projects outlined in Section 3 of this Act - these are projects which I think serve a noble purpose
- Raising taxes on marijuana does not have the same detrimental effect on our economy as raising taxes on businesses or a large number of people would - this tax only affects a small minority of the population

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 02:08:51 PM »

I'm for the tax increase.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 09:54:46 AM »

Hmm, undecided. We all know I could get behind cigarettes, though. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 10:04:13 AM »

Hmm, undecided. We all know I could get behind cigarettes, though. Wink

Would you like to see an amendment to the bill?
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 10:40:35 AM »

Hmm, undecided. We all know I could get behind cigarettes, though. Wink

Would you like to see an amendment to the bill?
I'll have to think on it for a few hours. I'm not sure if I'm for 20%. Is there presently a tax on it?
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 10:57:46 AM »

Hmm, undecided. We all know I could get behind cigarettes, though. Wink

Would you like to see an amendment to the bill?
I'll have to think on it for a few hours. I'm not sure if I'm for 20%. Is there presently a tax on it?

The current Marijuana Taxation Act says this:

1. Whereas, the consumption of marijuana is legal, in accordance with FL 6-19, the Marijuana Legalization and Taxation Act.
2. There shall be a 10% tax increase on all marijuana substances in the Mideast
3. All money collected by this tax shall fund The Mideast Victim Compensation Act.
4. The 1% sales tax increase on gun purchases set in The Mideast Victim Compensation Act, is hereby repealed.

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I assume this is based on an existing marijuana tax in the ME, though I couldn't find any concrete bill in the wiki that regulates marijuana taxation. Also, in the ME budget thread a tax on marijuana is listed on the revenue page. The only problem is that the budget has not been passed yet.
So, based on the current marijuana taxation act I assume that there must be a tax in place. But where can we read up on it? Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 02:05:31 PM »

If we repealed the bill that repealed the gun tax, would that reinstate it? Because we certainly don't want that.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 03:41:08 PM »

If we repealed the bill that repealed the gun tax, would that reinstate it? Because we certainly don't want that.

I don't think so. In my understanding, once a bill is repealed it remains repealed untill it is passed and explicitly reinstated by the same chamber again.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 03:49:25 PM »

According to GM shua, these two federal tax bills on marijuana are in effect:

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/National_Sin_Tax_Act
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Marijuana_Legalization_and_Taxation_Act

But since these are federal taxes, I guess the tax increase mentioned in this bill, which is a specifically ME piece of legislation, has nothing to do with them ... is that correct?
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2011, 03:52:41 AM »

Any amendments?
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2011, 04:04:32 AM »

I'm opposed to this for several reasons.

1. I'm opposed to the increase.
2. I'm opposed to subsection b).
3. I'm opposed to the repeal of the gun tax increase.
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2011, 10:42:42 AM »

I'm opposed to this for several reasons.

1. I'm opposed to the increase.
2. I'm opposed to subsection b).
3. I'm opposed to the repeal of the gun tax increase.

Just to get it right, do you approve of the 1% tax increase that the Mideast Victim Compensation Act established or not (since I assume you're not in favor of higher taxes I assume "no")? Because in the old Mideast Marijuana Taxation Act, that 1% tax increase was repealed.

If anything, I could propose an amendment to this New Mideast Marijuana Taxation Act that specifies that said tax increase remains repealed. That'd be no problem to me.

Point 1 and 2 you listed are not negiotiable, though. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2011, 10:52:34 AM »

I propose this amendment to make doubly sure we aren't reinstating the gun tax.

Meanwhile, we really need a budget for any of this to make sense.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »

I'm opposed to this for several reasons.

1. I'm opposed to the increase.
2. I'm opposed to subsection b).
3. I'm opposed to the repeal of the gun tax increase.

Just to get it right, do you approve of the 1% tax increase that the Mideast Victim Compensation Act established or not (since I assume you're not in favor of higher taxes I assume "no")? Because in the old Mideast Marijuana Taxation Act, that 1% tax increase was repealed.

If anything, I could propose an amendment to this New Mideast Marijuana Taxation Act that specifies that said tax increase remains repealed. That'd be no problem to me.

Point 1 and 2 you listed are not negiotiable, though. Tongue

I'm opposed to an increase on the gun tax.
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 03:34:25 PM »

I propose this amendment to make doubly sure we aren't reinstating the gun tax.

Meanwhile, we really need a budget for any of this to make sense.

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That's an amendment that I support. If necessary, I accept it as friendly.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 05:41:23 AM »

In other words, it would be good to have a vote on TJ's amendment. Wink

The amendment clarifies the gun tax issue, and I fully support that.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 07:27:09 PM »

In other words, it would be good to have a vote on TJ's amendment. Wink

The amendment clarifies the gun tax issue, and I fully support that.

If we are raising taxes on this, is there somewhere we could cut spending or another tax cut in the budget? Also can there be a discinction to where this is not applied to other hemp based purchases?
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2011, 01:51:44 AM »

Did you ever figure out what the baseline is for the previous tax that's being increased by a percentage? If not, I'd suggest just setting a new tax rate
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2011, 10:53:14 AM »

Shua's right, we need to actually set a marijuana tax before we can change it. I'd say we try a 25% tax on marijuana sales. I have no idea if that's low or high, so feel free to weigh in Tongue

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2011, 11:02:15 AM »

You know, a marijuana tax can't be high enough for me ... Wink
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2011, 04:32:28 AM »

Speaker, I fully support TJ's latest amendment. We could have a vote on it ... Wink
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2011, 06:05:43 PM »

Voting is now open on the following amendment.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote:

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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 04:14:49 AM »

Aye!
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 10:49:55 AM »

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