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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2011, 03:18:36 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2011, 03:20:53 pm »
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2011, 05:55:53 pm »
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 11:27:57 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2011, 11:38:15 pm »
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2011, 12:37:34 pm »
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I didn't really read it, tbh.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2011, 01:02:12 pm »
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2011, 09:31:05 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2012, 11:57:53 pm »
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So the venue is responsible if the band commits a crime? Why are we even debating this bill now? We are going from screwing the people to screwing the venue. Ok. Let's just vote on this bill and settle it. As a law student, this debate is annoying me.
You're right that the law, as it is being voted on, is imprecise and opens the flood gates to venues if the groups they host hurt a customer.

The bill should be broken down further to make clear which cases a venue can be sued, a performer can be sued, etc.

I will try to make that clarification if this bill lands on my desk and send it back to the senate.
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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2012, 12:01:49 am »
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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2012, 12:15:20 am »
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This bill currently has 3 ayes and 5 nays. With Kalwejt's resignation, 5 is a majority.

This has enough votes to fail. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2012, 01:24:49 am »
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Uh, why would Kalwejt's vote stop counting. I'm sure it doesn't work like that.

Aye

So no, it doesn't fail.
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2012, 01:26:52 am »
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Jbrase and Duke's votes should be disqualified, if any.

Otherwise I better see my early votes counted before the final vote is opened. Not sure it's supposed to work like that either.
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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2012, 01:32:22 am »
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I've reviewed the OSPR and think you're right.

So the vote is 5-5 and is goes to Bacon King.
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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2012, 01:35:47 am »
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Alright. Kind of a funny bill to have such a partisan vote on, huh?
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« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2012, 05:16:43 am »
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On board with President Snowguy for this one. I vote Aye and am looking forward to his recommended revisions.
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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2012, 05:35:10 am »
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This has passed and is presented to the President for his signature or veto.
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2012, 10:22:43 am »
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Jbrase and Duke's votes should be disqualified, if any.

Otherwise I better see my early votes counted before the final vote is opened. Not sure it's supposed to work like that either.
Why should Duke's vote be disqualified? He contributed more than any other Senator to this debate.
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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2012, 10:23:35 am »
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Jbrase and Duke's votes should be disqualified, if any.

Otherwise I better see my early votes counted before the final vote is opened. Not sure it's supposed to work like that either.
Why should Duke's vote be disqualified? He contributed more than any other Senator to this debate.

The vote hadn't been opened.
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« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2012, 12:55:08 pm »
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The header said final vote when I voted. Bgwah simply hadn't posted it in his post.
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« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2012, 05:23:18 pm »
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I am revising the bill to make the cases where parties have legal standing more specific.  The bill, as is, pretty much leaves the doors wide open.


1. Parties claiming injury or damages as a result of a concert or other musical performance shall not have standing to sue venues unless the venue has failed to meet federal legal standards.

2.  Parties claiming injury or damages as a result of a concert or other musical performance shall not have standing to sue performers unless the performers are directly involved in the incident causing damages.

3.  Sections 1 and 2 of this bill shall not apply to minors.
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« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2012, 05:33:36 pm »
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Senator Napoleon, as sponsor of this bill, would you like for the Senate to vote on whether to approve President Snowguy's modifications, or would you prefer to have the bill withdrawn?
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2012, 08:00:44 pm »
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Senator Napoleon, as sponsor of this bill, would you like for the Senate to vote on whether to approve President Snowguy's modifications, or would you prefer to have the bill withdrawn?
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2012, 05:19:55 am »
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Yeah, after four years of being a non-disruptive poster on the forum, never considered a troublemaker, even someone who was liked well enough to be elected Atlasian President, Napoleon should be allowed to stay.


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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2012, 05:30:36 am »
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We are now voting on the President's revisions of the Freedom to Perform Act:

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Freedom to Perform Act

1. Parties claiming injury or damages as a result of a concert or other musical performance shall not have standing to sue venues unless the venue has failed to meet federal legal standards.

2. Parties claiming injury or damages as a result of a concert or other musical performance shall not have standing to sue performers unless the performers are directly involved in the incident causing damages.

3. Sections 1 and 2 of this bill shall not apply to minors.



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