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« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2011, 07:03:22 am »
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'Brussels - Charleroi' is great. Like having... oh... how about 'Cardiff - Rhondda', except that you could never build an airport up there. 'Leeds - Barnsley', perhaps?
Nothing will ever beat "Frankfurt-Hahn". It's actually closer to Luxembourg.

It's awful. Just really awful. As is Ryanair.
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« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2011, 07:12:50 am »
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And now in English:

"Two years ago on Christmas Day, out of boredom, after taking a shower I quickly colored my armpit hair on both sides green. Let's see how this works out with the ladies."

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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2011, 07:30:27 am »
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And now in English:

"Two years ago on Christmas Day, out of boredom, after taking a shower I quickly colored my armpit hair on both sides green. Let's see how this works out with the ladies."

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« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2011, 01:13:59 pm »
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While we're complaining about airport distances, London's Stansted is quite a distance out as well.
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« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2011, 01:23:08 pm »
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Ah well, you can't pay 20 to do 1.000 km and land on the roof of the building to which you go...
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« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2011, 04:55:25 am »
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While we're complaining about airport distances, London's Stansted is quite a distance out as well.
Stansted is on the far outer edge of the contiguous London metro, the only place a major airport has any business whatsoever being.
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« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2011, 10:23:46 am »
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While we're complaining about airport distances, London's Stansted is quite a distance out as well.
Stansted is on the far outer edge of the contiguous London metro, the only place a major airport has any business whatsoever being.

New York has two major airports in the city limits. Plenty of other major airports are in or near the center city. Voldemort National Airport in DC. Logan Airport in Boston. We have the busiest cargo airport in the country (was in the world until Hong Kong passed us couple of years back) in my hometown. Why would you want an airport to be inconvenient?
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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2011, 10:36:00 am »
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I find a major airport in the middle of a city pretty damn inconvenient, thank you very much.
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« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2011, 10:43:59 am »
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I find a major airport in the middle of a city pretty damn inconvenient, thank you very much.
Inconvenient for what? Getting to the countryside?
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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2011, 10:45:18 am »
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Oh, quality of life, city planning, property values, the works.
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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2011, 10:54:20 am »
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Oh, quality of life, city planning, property values, the works.

When I visited Berlin, I flew into Tegel. It was in the city. I stayed in a hostel that wasn't far away. And it was fine. I didn't see any quality of life issues caused by the airport. The same is true for many of the American airports I mentioned previously. While the Memphis airport is not in a nice part of town, I don't think the airport is to blame. It brings countless jobs to people who very much need them. Plus, middle class people are moving as fast as they can to the area just south of it, which is by far the fastest growing part of our metro. I don't see what the fuss is all about.
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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2011, 11:09:12 am »
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You didn't? Then you didn't go into the right direction from the airport. EastSouthEast, in this case.
Anyways, Berlin's a much more closely knit metro than London (for obvious historical reasons), no one's thinking about ever enlarging Tegel again, and the airport they're actually enlarging and trying to make into the main airport is further out. (Heathrow, of course, being the London airport where an issue exists. And being much closer in than Stansted, within Greater London, but also within a basically suburban part of it. Munich Airport, of course, is a similar distance from the city as Stansted, in a smaller though just as huge-interrupted-hard-to-define metro area. This is as it should be.)
Have a look around. Most major American airports have a splotch of suburban slum next door. I can't look into development histories, but I'd wager a bet most of them weren't laid out to be... at least not any laid out before the airport itself was built. It's pretty hard on homeowners if the place's worth halves. Especially if you've got a mortgage on it.


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« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2011, 01:42:22 pm »
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I can't look into development histories, but I'd wager a bet most of them weren't laid out to be... at least not any laid out before the airport itself was built.

Such as train stations in European cities, which at 1st were out if the cities, and then they have been fully integrated to those so that now they are part of the center or close of it. Also, at least in France, train stations areas always had a bad reputation, and ironically it didn't change much since then, districts around stations use to be kinda rough, even if the station is now in the center or close, which also at least in France, use to be the part of cities with the less problems.

And the suburb thing is what is currently happening to Toulouse-Blagnac. Crazy how suburbs (that is lots of houses and residences but also all what goes with it, big supermarkets, big movie theaters and so on) grew there around the airport in the very last years, this going along the important development of this airport (which became the 4th French one), and well, to be precise it also went along with the last big developments of Airbus there, it seems to match with the A380 facilities coming.
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« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2011, 03:18:56 pm »

I have a half-Swedish half-Danish friend, for example, and she speaks a Swedified version of Danish with me that I can understand very easily.

So...Skane?
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« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2011, 05:31:49 pm »
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The neighbourhood of Roma Termini has a horrible reputation, IIRC. (And closer to home Brussels-Midi is located in the heart of the more problematic parts of the city.)
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« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2011, 08:16:42 pm »
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I have a half-Swedish half-Danish friend, for example, and she speaks a Swedified version of Danish with me that I can understand very easily.

So...Skane?

No, "Sknska" as they speak in Skne is not easily understandable. Tongue
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« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2011, 08:29:07 pm »
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"Ti va el int ti va, je frogon:
M e va betr tro ti tol o liid
All styng pilar som man for i liive
El ris se mot e hav ov plogr
jier shlut p allt. -Ti dij -
Ti sov - bare sov -
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« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2011, 08:56:00 pm »
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"Ti va el int ti va, je frogon:
M e va betr tro ti tol o liid
All styng pilar som man for i liive
El ris se mot e hav ov plogr
jier shlut p allt. -Ti dij -
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He sku va n nod ti bydi om i stillhit."

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Haha! So, for the non-Swedish speakers that is Hamlet's monologue "To Be or Not To Be"
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« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2011, 09:12:34 pm »
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I am heartened by the fact that not only are our European posters not ashamed to admit that they have a dialect but openly boast about theirs and discuss it publically.  I wonder if dialect-shame is a concept unique to the US Tongue
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« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2011, 01:58:44 am »
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No, on the grounds that it's not.

If I pick up 12 newspapers and it's about 12 people standing in 12 parts of German speaking countries, each newspaper will tell me that the people around them are speaking "German". If there was a need to classify the languages differently for mass consumption, it would have been done already.


put another way - no we should not on the grounds that we have not yet - IE it should not be a conscience decision, it would be an unconscience one.
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« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2011, 02:08:52 am »
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Should Chinese count as only 1 language?

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« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2011, 02:12:09 am »
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No, and it's not, which is why we have Mandarin and Cantonese
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« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2011, 02:34:19 am »
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No, and it's not, which is why we have Mandarin and Cantonese

The *ducks* indicated that it was a wise-ass question.
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« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2011, 11:18:23 am »
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I am heartened by the fact that not only are our European posters not ashamed to admit that they have a dialect but openly boast about theirs and discuss it publically.  I wonder if dialect-shame is a concept unique to the US Tongue

I wonder if teaching kids that how they speak at home is "wrong" is a concept unique to the US...
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« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2011, 12:55:19 pm »
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No, and it's not, which is why we have Mandarin and Cantonese

The *ducks* indicated that it was a wise-ass question.
Hence the wise-ass links in the answer Tongue
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