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« on: December 13, 2011, 10:30:48 AM »

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- http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2011/12/american-jail-defaming-thai-king.html
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 10:39:06 AM »

So, an American citizen posts something bad about the Thai king on the Internet from his home in in the U.S. - An act which happens to be completely legal in America. And then he gets arrested for it in Thailand.

In my book that's kidnapping, at best.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 11:35:49 AM »

opebo loves the king and authoritarianism (and preteen rape) so he has no reasons to be worried and probably agrees with the jail time/state kidnapping.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 11:38:17 AM »

opebo's a loyal friend of His Majesty. Your concerns are noble, but unnecessary.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 07:27:23 AM »

I like that he lives in "THE GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH" but is scared to post in this thread because of the possibly very real consequences he could face for doing so.  That Bhumibol Adulyadej is a giant douche for having and enforcing such anti-freedom laws.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 09:57:15 AM »

I like that he lives in "THE GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH" but is scared to post in this thread because of the possibly very real consequences he could face for doing so.  That Bhumibol Adulyadej is a giant douche for having and enforcing such anti-freedom laws.

Actually the Thai king isn't the one who has and enforces this law, as he regularly pardons those convicted of it.  Also, unless opebo has become a dual-citizen, I doubt he has much o worry about from this.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 12:00:10 PM »

I like that he lives in "THE GREATEST PLACE ON EARTH" but is scared to post in this thread because of the possibly very real consequences he could face for doing so.  That Bhumibol Adulyadej is a giant douche for having and enforcing such anti-freedom laws.

Actually the Thai king isn't the one who has and enforces this law, as he regularly pardons those convicted of it.
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Of course that is authoritarianism opebo can get behind, but you?
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 12:08:10 PM »

Of course that is authoritarianism opebo can get behind, but you?

Well, Al moderated his posts on the internationnal elections board where he was hoping a coup to reverse the new elected government.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 01:04:16 PM »

So, an American citizen posts something bad about the Thai king on the Internet from his home in in the U.S. - An act which happens to be completely legal in America. And then he gets arrested for it in Thailand.

In my book that's kidnapping, at best.

Not surprising.  That sort of thing is pretty common in the West.  Especially in Germanic countries...

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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 09:11:29 PM »

There's a brilliant epilogue to Benedict Anderson's Imagined Communities where he discusses the editions of his book around the world.  The Thai lese majeste laws prohibit bad-mouthing any king, anywhere, any time.  Anderson said that the entire second third of the book ended up getting rewritten in the Thai edition and disowned the Thai "royalist" edition of Imagined Communities.
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 09:54:53 PM »

There's a brilliant epilogue to Benedict Anderson's Imagined Communities where he discusses the editions of his book around the world.  The Thai lese majeste laws prohibit bad-mouthing any king, anywhere, any time. 

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Did I get it right? So for me saying that, let say, Charles X was a waste of air is making me guilty of lese majeste under Thai laws?
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 12:09:57 AM »

There's a brilliant epilogue to Benedict Anderson's Imagined Communities where he discusses the editions of his book around the world.  The Thai lese majeste laws prohibit bad-mouthing any king, anywhere, any time. 

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Did I get it right? So for me saying that, let say, Charles X was a waste of air is making me guilty of lese majeste under Thai laws?

Technically, yes, but you'd probably only be prosecuted if you were clearly using a foreign king as an analogy for a Thai king.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 12:42:53 AM »

somebody catch opebo with his pants down?
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 08:56:11 AM »

Odd that you would pick that year.....since then there has been 1500% increase in the number of Lèse-Majesté cases sense.  cite
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Yeah, it says he "seems to dislikes the law"...man, if only he was in some sort of position to do something to change it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2011, 09:27:23 AM »

Thailand's Lèse-Majesté laws are quite fascinating. Apparently the checking is still done manually - which even makes China's Firewall look state of the art. It's also a sign of the conflict between the conservative establishment and the hinterland peasantry coming to eruption point, but that's probably obvious.

Take Indonesia and the Philippines into account, and it's ironic how the most democratic Southeast Asia regimes are also the most divided.

Yeah, it says he "seems to dislikes the law"...man, if only he was in some sort of position to do something to change it.

He really isn't at this point, if you get what I mean.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 03:54:59 PM »

Well, we have sort of lese-majeste thing too. Insulting (or even "attempting" to insult) the President is a criminal offense and there were few convictions, although none resulted in doing a prison term.

Yes, it's retarded.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:04:16 PM »

He really isn't at this point, if you get what I mean.
Indeed.  The place is quite a bit sh**ttier than we had previously assumed.  They've managed to take an already F-ed up law, and make it several times worse.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 05:49:57 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 06:57:36 PM »

Chaps, I'm a royalist and fully support Lèse-Majesté laws, while opposing democracy.  So the only thing I need 'beware' is that the next coup d'etat may fail to come.  Well, that and the demise of the respected himself.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2011, 07:35:17 PM »

Yeah, it says he "seems to dislikes the law"...man, if only he was in some sort of position to do something to change it.

He really isn't at this point, if you get what I mean.

Something of a prisoner of the throne by this time in his life, I take it?
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2011, 07:42:10 PM »

Off topic, but it's nice to see something from The Singing Detective in a signature that's not mine. You seen it (or some of it) recently, or do you just like the quote?
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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2011, 08:06:55 PM »

Off topic, but it's nice to see something from The Singing Detective in a signature that's not mine. You seen it (or some of it) recently, or do you just like the quote?

I only saw the Robert Downey Jr. movie.  And I like the quote a lot.  The idea of impotent rage touches me greatly and seems to really sum up the human condition more than any other emotion.
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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2011, 09:37:14 PM »

I only saw the Robert Downey Jr. movie.

Ah, well, that's unfortunate. The proper thing is far superior.
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