US with Canadian parties

[Hatman 🍁]

Ideally, the entire Boise metropolitan area would be in one district. That should be possible. I would make my own map, but I'm occupied at the moment.

You mean put the panhandle in with the Mormon areas? That wouldn't be very compact looking.

[Hatman 🍁]

New Mexico



Las Cruces-Roswell would vote Tory, the other two could be won by any of the three parties.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

New York















Names for New York/Westchester/Nassau ridings:

Long Island West-Central (Purple)
Great Neck--Port Washington--Hempstead--Freeport (Red)
Long Beach--Lynbrook--Elmont (Yellow)
Far Rockaway--Jamaica Bay--Rochdale (Teal)
Flushing Meadows--Queens East (Silver)
Queens Center (Lavender)
Queen North-West (Cyan)
Canarsie--Prospect Park (Pink)
Flatbush--Midwood--Sheepshead Bay (Chartreuse)
Sunset Park--Borough Park--Bensonhurst (Cornflower)
Staten Island--Coney Island (Olive)
Brooklyn North-Center--Crown Heights (Buff)
Manhattan South (Orange)
Manhattan Center (Lime Green)
Manhattan North (Indigo)
Bronx South (Gold)
Bronx West-Center (Tan)
Bronx North-East--New Rochelle--Yonkers (Light pink)
White Plains--Mount Kisco--Bedford (Dark brown)
Newburgh--Ramapo (Medium brown)

[Хahar 🤔]

For cities, it would be "Center" instead of "Central", I would think.

Ideally, the entire Boise metropolitan area would be in one district. That should be possible. I would make my own map, but I'm occupied at the moment.

You mean put the panhandle in with the Mormon areas? That wouldn't be very compact looking.

Would that be necessary? The Boise metro area is less than 40% of the state's population.

[Hatman 🍁]

Very cool. I think some of the names could be improved to sound more Canadian. Also, I wonder if Staten Island could be its own district? Maybe an undersized district; just because I don't like just giving it a bit of the mainland. Oh well.

I was working on Nevada,

For cities, it would be "Center" instead of "Central", I would think.

Don't you mean Centre?

Ideally, the entire Boise metropolitan area would be in one district. That should be possible. I would make my own map, but I'm occupied at the moment.

You mean put the panhandle in with the Mormon areas? That wouldn't be very compact looking.

Would that be necessary? The Boise metro area is less than 40% of the state's population.

I think so. Idaho has 3 population centres. One will have to be divided.

[Hatman 🍁]

Here's Kansas

[Хahar 🤔]

Staten Island certainly ought to be its own district; its population is 80% of ideal, but logical boundaries are more important than exact equality.

Center ought to be used for riding names, because this is America.

The Nevada map looks good, but I would change the names. The city of Las Vegas's boundaries don't really correspond to anything (the Strip, for instance, isn't in Las Vegas proper), so I would call those two ridings Las Vegas North and Las Vegas South. The other district's name is rather long; if we take the example of Churchill in Manitoba and name it after the largest river in the riding, we get the name Humboldt. I like that.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Very cool. I think some of the names could be improved to sound more Canadian.

I'm all ears.

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We could definitely put it like that. I don't like that either. The district would be about a hundred thousand undersized, about twice the recommended deviation, and I thought for quite a while about which was preferable. Now that I think of it yet again, I think I agree with you; just give that olive bit of Brooklyn to Flatbush--Midwood--Sheepshead Bay and/or Sunset Park--Borough Park--Bensonhurst (and slap '--Coney Island' on the relevant name or names).

The Bronx, though, kind of has to have part of it kicked in with Yonkers and New Rochelle.

I could start work on New Jersey, Alabama, Colorado, or Arizona, whichever we'd prefer.

[Hatman 🍁]

Staten Island certainly ought to be its own district; its population is 80% of ideal, but logical boundaries are more important than exact equality.

Center ought to be used for riding names, because this is America.

The Nevada map looks good, but I would change the names. The city of Las Vegas's boundaries don't really correspond to anything (the Strip, for instance, isn't in Las Vegas proper), so I would call those two ridings Las Vegas North and Las Vegas South. The other district's name is rather long; if we take the example of Churchill in Manitoba and name it after the largest river in the riding, we get the name Humboldt. I like that.

Very well then.  Las Vegas North / Las Vegas South are good. But, I don't like Humboldt for the other riding name.  Howabout "Deseret"?

Other options,

Great Basin-Mojave or Great Basin-Colorado.

[Хahar 🤔]

The name Deseret is always associated with Mormonism. That wouldn't work. Would Great Basin be too vague?

[Joe Republic]

Actually your original names for Las Vegas are more appropriate as is.  Your northern riding appears to encompass the actual city boundaries of LV proper and North Las Vegas, more or less.  While the southern riding appears to contain only the unincorporated named towns and Henderson, so that works too.

As for the rest of the state, I'd propose 'Reno-Elko-Boulder City'.

[bgwah]

1940

what makes Washington so special?

(we actually did have a Washington Commonwealth Federation during that era, interestingly enough)

[Хahar 🤔]

If there were one state that might vote for a socialist party at that time, I would think that it would be Wisconsin. Perhaps the CCF would also do well in Montana and Nevada, although that would likely have peaked earlier than 1940. The old copper towns of Butte and Anaconda would have been socialist strongholds for the last century, I would imagine.

[Hatman 🍁]

Arkansas. I didn't have to resort to long names here [except for the Little Rock riding]

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

I'll be doing Alabama and Mississippi tonight.

[Smid]

I'll update the map after the weekend, keep 'em coming!

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

ALABAMA



All ridings are hardcore Tory except for Montgomery--Tombigbee--Tuscaloosa, which would lean whatever the default 'minority' party would be, and Birmingham, which is marginal between that party and the Tories. Huntsville--Tennessee Valley and The Shoals would have once been Liberal, but no longer.

If the South is our Quebec-analogue, though, all ridings would be Bloc Sud until 2011, when they would all flip Tory.

[Hatman 🍁]

I know you're doing Mississippi, but it was next on my list too:

[Hatman 🍁]

I don't think your Alabama districts are compact enough. I would rename Birmingham to "Jefferson", since it's just the county.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

MISSISSIPPI



Delta--Natchez is majority black. Jackson--Pearl--Ridgeland--Kosciusko might be black enough to be vaguely swingy and will probably be majority or at least plurality black in a decade or two. The other three ridings are colossally Tory. Starkville--Meridian--Brookhaven isn't elegant, but it's no worse than what's there now, and unlike Edmonton--Sherwood Park in the actual Canada it doesn't look uncomfortably like a Roman salute. The split of De Soto is supposed to go along Interstate 55.

It would be fun if the American Parliament used the Australian naming system, because the arguments between District of Faulkner and District of Presley for the north-east riding, and which bluesman to use for the riverine riding, would be amazing.

Vicksburg should be in the Delta riding, and too much of the Memphis suburbs shouldn't. If we can figure out some way to have my Delta--Natchez but avoid my...unfortunate Starkville--Meridian--Brookhaven, I think that that would be nice.

In Alabama I was going for CoI, not compactness, but if you can think of a way to avoid splitting the Tennessee Valley or the Black Belt, by all means go ahead. I have some familiarity with Alabama, and I honestly don't think that anything that would look more compact would feel more compact from the perspective of somebody living and voting in one of these ridings.

Jefferson is a better name, you're right.

ETA: Made a more compact Mississippi, am putting map together as we speak.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Better MISSISSIPPI



Commentary about the partisan/racial makeup still holds true.

[Hatman 🍁]

ick! you split a county! Ah well, naturally I like my map better, but let's see what others think. (Also, Delta-Natchez is too long) It should be noted that when making these maps, communities of interest are important to be kept together. Not crazy gerrymanders like in the US, but it would probably be one of the the things looked at would be to keep the Black areas together. I admit to making the maps without looking at the demographic maps.

Anyways, here is Iowa:

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

It is rather long but it's another CoI question. The counties along the Mississippi River are all very poor, relatively rural, and full of blacks except for De Soto itself, which I split for population reasons (it has those of the Memphis suburbs which are in Mississippi and as such is more populous than the rest of the river counties). Your Mississippi Delta district has several white areas in the east and north-east that have been in the Tupelo district in real life since forever.

The best way to keep the riverine CoI whole without splitting De Soto would be to put the rest of De Soto in the Tupelo riding, then put Franklin and Amite in Delta--Natchez, which ends up underpopulated but not too badly (putting Pike and Walthall in too fixes this but does genuinely make it lumpy-looking and non-compact), and also a little more nicely shaped. Shall we try that?

[Hatman 🍁]

I noticed your Gulf Coast riding is bigger than mine, any reason for that? My district has 599,000 when the quotient is even less than that, at 593,000.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Mine's about 9% over the quotient. There isn't any specific reason for it and in fact the eastern riding would also be closer to the quotient if I switched Marion, Perry, and Greene, so let's do that.

Your map splits the Jackson area, incidentally. Small parts of the city proper are actually in Madison and Rankin.