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[Hatman 🍁]

Oklahoma...



"Panhandle" seems to be a re-occurring name in riding names ...

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MISSISSIPPI FINAL



I'm convinced that this is best from a CoI standpoint, at least with regards to the river and the Gulf Coast/Hattiesburg. The Jackson MSA is also kept together.

[Hatman 🍁]

Oregon

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Have we more or less accepted my Alabama map? If so, I'd like to get a few other people's input on our different Mississippi maps before we decide which one to use. Some point soon I can do Colorado and Arizona.

[Jackson]

I think both your Alabama and Mississippi maps are acceptable from a communities of interest perspective.

[Hatman 🍁]

Have we more or less accepted my Alabama map? If so, I'd like to get a few other people's input on our different Mississippi maps before we decide which one to use. Some point soon I can do Colorado and Arizona.

I'd like to  hear what Xahar thinks, but I dont mind going with your map.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Have we more or less accepted my Alabama map? If so, I'd like to get a few other people's input on our different Mississippi maps before we decide which one to use. Some point soon I can do Colorado and Arizona.

I'd like to  hear what Xahar thinks, but I dont mind going with your map.

Okay, let's wait on Xahar for a while and if we don't hear from him by tomorrow what do you say we just go from there?

[Хahar 🤔]

Alabama looks fine, and Nathan's Mississippi map looks good; that the Delta is kept together is important, I think.

I must say, there are a lot of em dashes in all these names. It's like these are all Quebec ridings.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

No offence, but this sticking to county lines as though they were religions, makes me wonder if you guys understand the Canadian redistricting process.

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To be honest, I still prefer my second map, the one that fixed the horror that was the Starkville-to-Brookhaven riding but kept De Soto split along I55.

[Hatman 🍁]

No offence, but this sticking to county lines as though they were religions, makes me wonder if you guys understand the Canadian redistricting process.

Good point, but I think I'm treating US counties like Canadian municipalities. Municipalities are rarely divided up unless they have to. I'm doing this because of the size of the of the ridings are bigger. 

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Aye, Municipalities are stuck too.

[Smid]

Ridings of the US Parliament




States completed (ridings): 25 (88)

Alaska (2)
Arkansas (4)
Connecticut (6)
Delaware (2)
DC (1)
Hawaii (2)
Idaho (2)
Iowa (6)
Kansas (5)
Maine (2)
Massachusetts (11)
Missouri (9)
Montana (2)
Nebraska (3)
Nevada (3)
New Hampshire (2)
New Mexico (3)
North Dakota (2)
Oklahoma (6)
Rhode Island (2)
South Dakota (2)
Utah (3)
Vermont (2)
West Virginia (4)
Wyoming (2)


Work in Progress (ridings): 1 (34)
New York (34)


Pending (ridings): 3 (17)
Mississippi (5)
Oregon (5)
Alabama (7)


Remaining States (ridings): 22 (338)
South Carolina (6)
Alabama (7)
Colorado (7)
Kentucky (7)
Louisiana (8)
Maryland (8)
Minnesota (8)
Arizona (9)
Tennessee (9)
Washington (9)
Wisconsin (9)
Indiana (10)
Virginia (11)
Georgia (13)
North Carolina (13)
New Jersey (14)
Michigan (18)
Ohio (21)
Illinois (22)
Pennsylvania (23)
Florida (26)
Texas (35)
California (52)

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ARIZONA MAP ONE, REJECTED BY BOUNDARY COMMISSION

State



Maricopa/Pinal/Pima



I wasn't terribly concerned with county lines because Arizona has two counties that are larger than a riding anyway. Still, other than the three big central counties, the only split is Mohave, which is split along the Colorado River.

Riding names and descriptions:

The blue riding, Eastern Mountains--Canyonlands, is traditionally semisolidly Tory but in the recent past has become marginal, perhaps (but maybe not) going NDP in 2011.
The green riding, Western Desert, is hardcore Tory and would have previously been hardcore Reform and hardcore American Alliance.
The purple riding, Phoenix North, is solidly Tory at present.
The red riding, Mesa--Scottsdale, is hardcore Tory and would have previously been hardcore Reform and hardcore American Alliance.
The yellow riding, Glendale--Phoenix West, is solidly NDP at present, once solidly Liberal.
The teal riding, Tempe--Phoenix East, is solidly NDP at present, once solidly liberal.
The black riding, Chandler--Gilbert--East Pinal, is solidly Tory at present.
The red-orange riding, Southern Desert, traditionally leans Liberal but in the recent past has become Grit-Tory marginal, with NDP-supporting minorities tactically voting Liberal (though this may flip in the near future).  I tend to think it would go very narrowly Grit in 2011, the only riding in Arizona to remain so.
The spring green riding, Tucson, is traditionally Liberal but flipped NDP in either 2008 or 2011.

The split between Western Desert and Southern Desert in Maricopa is supposed to follow Interstate 8 but I couldn't show that on DRA. The split of Pinal goes through the San Tan Valley and then south across the desert. The split of Pima hugs the outskirts of the built-up area and includes the areas north and east of Tucson in the urban riding.

[Jackson]

I have some pretty serious misgivings about several of those ridings, especially the Phoenix area- ridings, one of which appears to cross a mountain range.

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ARIZONA MAP REJECTED BY BOUNDARY COMMISSION

I wasn't even thinking of mountain ranges outside the northern and eastern parts of the state, sorry! Can't believe I missed that.

If you have any ideas, let me know. The only one I'm really attached to is Tucson, which is the area of Arizona that I'm actually somewhat familiar with.

[afleitch]

I might do the same for the UK

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I might do the same for the UK

http://rr-bce-static.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/A0-North-East-Region-Initial-Proposals.pdf?9d7bd4 et al

I don't see anything in the UK that would be rejected in Canada.

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ARIZONA, SECOND ATTEMPT

With this one I started in Maricopa and Pima and worked my way out, because the other way around obviously failed.

State view:



Maricopa/Pinal/Pima view:



This time there are five heavily Tory ridings.

Phoenix North
Glendale
Tempe South--Chandler
Tempe North--Mesa--Scottsdale
Western Desert

Two marginal.

Eastern Mountains
Southern Desert

Two Grit/Dipper.

Phoenix South
Tucson

Colorado (whose physical geography I'm more comfortable with) coming if we have no more or only minor problems with this, but first I need to rest, because I've been up all night with unrelated issues.

[Jackson]

In all honesty, the old map wasn't necessarily that bad, it was just that the Glendale-West Phoenix was comprised of two separate regions that did not form a community of interest
(They still do that in the new map btw.)

If I may, could I humbly suggest this as an alternative?



Judging from a glance at the demographics of the districts in question, the partisan breakdown would be as follows-

Mogollon(light green) Tory (would probably swing to the NDP given a few more years )

Tuscon(cyan) Currently NDP, would have been Liberal prior to either 2011 or 2008

Sonora(dark red) Marginal Tory(Would ordinarily be a Tory-Grit swing district)

Colorado River(light blue) Tory

Phoenix-Glendale(green) Marginal Tory(Would ordinarily be solid Grit)

Phoenix-Lake Pleasant(purple) Tory

Phoenix-Tempe(blue) NDP (would ordinarily be Grit vs. NDP)

Mesa-Scottsdale(yellow) Tory

Chandler-Gilbert(red) Tory


Essentially not much of a major change, but it fixes the problem in the Phoenix metro.

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That's good. It keeps most of what I was trying to do with the outer ridings, which are areas I'm much more familiar with than Maricopa, and it seems like a more logical division of Maricopa than what I ended up doing.

One thing, though: The main centers of the Mogollon culture were slightly to the south-east of most of your riding named after it, and the Mogollon Mountains are in New Mexico. Might I suggest Anasazi?

Colorado coming up tonight after I watch primary stuff.

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COLORADO



The two things that I am concerned people might find as bases for criticism here are the undersized Arapahoe and the fact that I put Colorado Springs in Eastern Plains and Pueblo in Pueblo--West of the Rockies. I did the former because of Arapahoe County's growth rate; in ten years it seems likely to be a more normal-sized riding. The latter is because I truly felt that the ski areas should be put in a riding with Boulder and Fort Collins and this in turn meant that the Grand Junction district had to include at least one populous county on the High Plains rather than in the mountains. I chose Pueblo because it is demographically somewhat similar to western Colorado, particularly south-western Colorado. It has a lot of Hispanics, very nearly if not outright a plurality by now. Colorado Springs does not and is demographically and politically much more 'of the plains' than Pueblo is. If I had not done this I would have had to put almost the entirety of Colorado outside the Rocky Mountain Front in one district, since Colorado's High Plains outside El Paso and Pueblo Counties only have about a hundred thousand people. I found this unacceptable so I made what I thought was the most reasonable split of the southern end of the urbanized area possible.

Denver and Boulder--Fort Collins--Aspen would now be solidly NDP, probably Grit prior to 2008 or 2011. Arapahoe and North Front were once relatively safe Tory excepting years like 1993 but are currently Tory-NDP marginal because demographics. Jefferson--Douglas is still Tory but getting closer and closer in recent elections and could definitely go NDP given a few years. Pueblo--West of the Rockies, pending whatever demographic changes a few more years of the Hispanicizing of the rural American West might bring, is almost entirely safe Tory except in extremely bad years, and Eastern Plains is safe Tory even then. Pueblo--West of the Rockies I can imagine being fairly Grit in the past; Eastern Plains strikes me as the sort of riding that would be either one of the few loyal PC seats in the nineties or one of the strongest Reform/American Alliance seats in the country.

2-2-3 between the left and the right, basically, similar to the actual Colorado but perhaps a bit more competitive in general.

[Jackson]

One thing, though: The main centers of the Mogollon culture were slightly to the south-east of most of your riding named after it, and the Mogollon Mountains are in New Mexico. Might I suggest Anasazi?

Possibly, however that might cause exacerbate significant tensions between several of the native peoples in the riding, especially the Hopi and the Navajo.

 I actually didn't name the riding after the Mogollon culture, but rather after this geographic feature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogollon_Rim which occupies much of the central part of the riding.

Also, I like your Colorado districts, but I would want to see if Xahar/Hatman have any objections to them before finalizing them.

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Possibly, however that might cause exacerbate significant tensions between several of the native peoples in the riding, especially the Hopi and the Navajo.

Ooooh, right, I forgot about the negative implications of the word 'Anasazi' to some native peoples. Mogollon is probably best, then, you're right. I was aware of the Mogollon Mountain Range but not the Mogollon Rim.

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Agreed.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

One thing Canada would never do is separate the Hopi and Navajo.