US with Canadian parties

[Smid]

Ridings of the US Parliament




States completed (ridings): 28 (107)

Alabama (7)
Alaska (2)
Arkansas (4)
Connecticut (6)
Delaware (2)
DC (1)
Hawaii (2)
Idaho (2)
Iowa (6)
Kansas (5)
Maine (2)
Massachusetts (11)
Missouri (9)
Mississippi (5)
Montana (2)
Nebraska (3)
Nevada (3)
New Hampshire (2)
New Mexico (3)
North Dakota (2)
Oklahoma (6)
Oregon (5)
Rhode Island (2)
South Dakota (2)
Utah (3)
Vermont (2)
West Virginia (4)
Wyoming (2)


Work in Progress (ridings): 1 (34)
New York (34)


Pending (ridings): 3 (29)
Colorado (7)
Arizona (9)
Georgia (13)

Remaining States (ridings): 19 (308)
South Carolina (6)
Kentucky (7)
Louisiana (8)
Maryland (8)
Minnesota (8)
Arizona (9)
Tennessee (9)
Washington (9)
Wisconsin (9)
Indiana (10)
Virginia (11)
North Carolina (13)
New Jersey (14)
Michigan (18)
Ohio (21)
Illinois (22)
Pennsylvania (23)
Florida (26)
Texas (35)
California (52)

[ottermax]

I've been watching this joyfully, and I must congratulate all of you for the work you've put into this. I don't have much to say other than how awesome this is and that I wish I could contribute, but have no time...

Anyways I was wondering if Puerto Rico and other territories would receive seats since the North does in Canada?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

it should, but it'd also not be counted as normal seats. IE it'd be additional.

[Hatman]

We should do state legislatures too, when we're done.

[tb78]

How do you guys calculate the seats? If you all could explain it for me on here or by PM,  I would like to do north Carolina for you all if it's okay.

[asexual trans victimologist]

We're using an identical formula to Canada's, with N/435 instead of N/279. One of the Canadians here can probably explain how the formula actually works better than I can.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

N/279 was created at a time when we had 282 seats.

279 for the provinces, and 3, 1 each, for the territories.

So PR would be "above and beyond" the 435.

The "problem" is that even when we've had Territories that "earn" more than 1 seat, we don't give it to them, legally. The numbers have been assigned in the past.

I will do some research and get back to you.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

According to my research, PR should be given a number of members equal to what it would "deserve" as that's what we did with the NWT in 1904

[Bacon King]

Georgia:



Consider this a first draft that someone else can build off- I might improve it later if I have free time. I'll also name the districts if I improve it.

The only county split was Fulton which is essential for population reasons; the two halves have almost nothing in common anyways. The split is the boundary between Sandy Springs and Atlanta.

[Hatman]

Here is Kentucky,

[Jackson]

The entire central part of the state is simply an abomination.

[asexual trans victimologist]

I'll be working on Minnesota, New Jersey, and possibly Pennsylvania through the night.

[asexual trans victimologist]

MINNESOTA

[Hatman]

Using "Outer" is very British, and not used in Canada at all.  You can easily use county names instead

Yellow becomes "Anoka-Hennepin"
Purple becomes "Ramsey-Washington" and
Green becomes "Dakota-Carver-Scott"

[asexual trans victimologist]

I'm not fond of Ramsey--Washington, only because the Minneapolis riding is called, well, Minneapolis and I feel that the name of St Paul should be in that of its riding. The alternative would be to rename the Minneapolis riding Hennepin East and have the Anoka riding as Anoka--Hennepin West or something along those lines.

[Smid]

Staten Island certainly ought to be its own district; its population is 80% of ideal, but logical boundaries are more important than exact equality.

A quick question... the bit of the Staten Island riding not on Staten Island, and determined to be excised from the riding... which riding is it joining instead?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The Elections Act allows for a 25% variance and encourages it at times like this.

[Smid]

Yes, take Labrador for example. I thought the decision had been resolved that Staten Island would be its own riding that would exist solely of the island itself, and I have no qualms with that. I'm just asking where the surplus is going for the purposes of the NYC inset.

[Smid]

Ridings of the US Parliament




States completed (ridings): 31 (142)

Alabama (7)
Alaska (2)
Arizona (9)
Arkansas (4)
Colorado (7)
Connecticut (6)
Delaware (2)
DC (1)
Georgia (13)
Hawaii (2)
Idaho (2)
Iowa (6)
Kansas (5)
Maine (2)
Massachusetts (11)
Minnesota (8)
Missouri (9)
Mississippi (5)
Montana (2)
Nebraska (3)
Nevada (3)
New Hampshire (2)
New Mexico (3)
North Dakota (2)
Oklahoma (6)
Oregon (5)
Rhode Island (2)
South Dakota (2)
Utah (3)
Vermont (2)
West Virginia (4)
Wyoming (2)


Work in Progress (ridings): 1 (34)
New York (34)


Pending (ridings): 1 (7)
Kentucky (7)


Remaining States (ridings): 18 (294)
South Carolina (6)
Louisiana (8)
Maryland (8)
Arizona (9)
Tennessee (9)
Washington (9)
Wisconsin (9)
Indiana (10)
Virginia (11)
North Carolina (13)
New Jersey (14)
Michigan (18)
Ohio (21)
Illinois (22)
Pennsylvania (23)
Florida (26)
Texas (35)
California (52)

[asexual trans victimologist]

Staten Island certainly ought to be its own district; its population is 80% of ideal, but logical boundaries are more important than exact equality.

A quick question... the bit of the Staten Island riding not on Staten Island, and determined to be excised from the riding... which riding is it joining instead?

The western Brooklyn riding.

[Smid]

The western Brooklyn riding.

Cheers!

I've been building the NYC inset from this map in the gallery, as discussed in this thread.

Here's what I've got so far... still quite a way's to go. I'll resize it before adding to the full US map (hence the varying colours in the ridings completed thus far... after shrinking, the colours will make it clearer where the riding boundaries are, so I can re-add the borders). It may not be entirely perfect, but I think it's reasonable and, well, given the whole exercise is really for fun's sake, precision is probably not as important as in some of the other maps we've done of actual ridings that actually exist.

[asexual trans victimologist]

I like it!

Speaking of the New York inset,

NEW JERSEY



Closeup of Passaic and Bergen splits



Blue: Camden
Green: Pine Barrens--Cape May
Purple: Pine Barrens--Atlantic City
Red: Blue Ocean
Gold: Monmouth
Teal: Central Jersey
Silver: Raritan
Lavender: Morris
Sky blue: Skylands--Watergap
Pink: Paterson--Bergen West
Chartreuse: Bergen East
Cornflower: Hudson
Buff: Newark
Olive: Elizabeth

(Since most of these are just counties, I thought using too many county names would get boring, so I went for kind of quixotic naming. A lot of New Jersey counties have common or sound-like-they-would-be-common (for counties) names anyway, such as Essex or Middlesex or Union.)

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I would counter with this proposal:







I wouldn't hold counties sacred in New Jersey. With 21 counties and 14 districts, there are going to be splits, even with the obscenely generous 25% allowance in population variance.

Blue (Camden): Camden County by itself is short of the ideal population, so a riding based there has room to grow. I chose to pick up some of Gloucester County (the areas most in Camden's sphere of influence) to allow the Green riding to pick up Atlantic County. Population: 643,382 (2.4% overpopulated)

Green (Atlantic City-Vineland): My biggest problem with Nathan's map is that it pairs Burlington and Atlantic Counties. All of the development in Burlington is the northern part of the county, and the development in Atlantic is mostly along the coast. Take a ride along US 206- there's practically nothing between Southampton and downtown Hammonton. These two counties do not belong in the same riding. To rectify this problem, I put Atlantic County in the southern riding. Population: 753,358 (20.0% overpopulated)

Purple (Ocean): This riding comprises all of Ocean County, and is unchanged from Nathan's map. Population: 576,567 (8.2% underpopulated)

Red (Monmouth): This riding comprises all of Monmouth County, and is unchanged from Nathan's map. Population: 630,380 (0.4% overpopulated)

Gold (Burlington-Hamilton): The loss of Atlantic County means that the Burlington riding has to go into Mercer, forcing an awkward split. Hamilton fits better with the Burlington district than Atlantic County does, though. Population: 550,840 (12.3% underpopulated)

Teal (Woodbridge-Edison-Piscataway): Even with the generous allowance in population deviation, Middlesex County is a bit too much for one riding (29.0% overpopulated). This, unfortunately, means the County must be split. The parts of Somerset County I included in this riding share more in common politically and demographically with northern Middlesex County than with the rest of Somerset County. Population: 478,322 (23.8% underpopulated)

Dim Gray (Trenton-New Brunswick): The remainder of Mercer County gets paired with the parts of Middlesex County south of the Raritan River. Population: 673,208 (7.2% overpopulated)

Slate Blue (Elizabeth-Plainfield): This riding is comprised of all of Union County and is unchanged from Nathan's map. Population: 536,499 (14.6% underpopulated)

Cyan (Morris): By itself, Morris County is near the bare minimum to have a riding by itself (21.6% underpopulated), so a riding based there has room to grow. I chose to give it some of the West Essex suburbs, which have more in common with Morris County than with Newark. Population: 581,953 (7.3% underpopulated)

Deep Pink (Somerville-Phillipsburg-Sussex): I started with Nathan's riding, but swapped out the Passaic County portion to allow for a better split in Bergen County. I think Nathan's riding was a bit short on population, as well, which is how it can pick up the majority of Somerset County and remain close to the ideal. Population: 632,485 (0.7% overpopulated)

Chartreuse (Newark): Essex County is near the maximum allowed population for a riding (24.8% overpopulated). The western suburbs have more in common with Morris County than with Newark, so they were a natural choice to swap out. Population: 694,292 (10.6% overpopulated).

Cornflower Blue (Jersey City): This riding is comprised of all of Hudson County, and is unchanged from Nathan's map. Population: 634,266 (1.0% overpopulated)

Dark Salmon (Paterson-Hackensack): My other biggest problem with Nathan's map is that Paterson was paired with northwestern Bergen County. I think communities of interest would be better served by pairing Paterson with other ethnically diverse communities in Bergen County instead. Population: 759,493 (20.9% overpopulated)

Olive (Wayne-Paramus-Mahwah): This riding consists mostly of whiter, more conservative suburbs of Paterson and Hackensack. Population: 646,849 (3.0% overpopulated)

[Formerly Californian Tony]

I'm working on a Wisconsin map. Will be ready for tomorrow.

[asexual trans victimologist]

My only concern with Vazdul's map is Somerset going in with the Skylands, though it's still much better than what is actually done in that area in real life. My mother lives in the northern populated part of Burlington County, actually, so I know how the population dynamics there are, and the Burlington/Atlantic riding was my biggest problem with my own map too. Paterson--Hackensack is a little oddly-shaped at first glance but from a CoI standpoint it does probably make more sense. Well-done.

I'm considering doing Pennsylvania later, either tonight or tomorrow.