Redistribution of Federal Electoral Districts 2012

[MaxQue]

Well, given than the government and the provinces already track population numbers, they have a very good of how many people there is in each province.

By the way, Quebec reached 8 million people yesterday.

[MaxQue]

I suppose than ridings in my area won't change.

The less populated riding had near average progress, while the more populated had very slight progress (but not spread equally at all).

[MaxQue]

Montreal Island proper hasn't grown all that much, though the West Island (go figure) has.

Well, there isn't much room for growth on the Island.
Perhaps more in West Island, I never went there.

[MaxQue]

I'll talk of my region, Abitibi-Témiscamingue, because I know it.

There is only 2 possible plans, because any other idea would get shot down by the people.
It is impossible to split an MRC.
It is VERY impossible to put Rouyn-Noranda and Val-d'Or in the same riding.
The commission did both in its first plan last time, it was badly received.

So, two cases possible. Abitibi MRC in Abitibi-Témiscamingue (since 2004) or in Abitibi-Baie James-Nunavik-Eeyou (before 2004).

The current plan has the problem of road links. It doesn't connect well. To do Val-d'Or-Matagami, you need to pass by Abitibi MRC.

But, on the demography side, Abitibi-Témiscamingue has just the good size. Abitibi-Baie James-Nunavik-Eeyou is a bit underpopulated, but it is the Canada 4th largest riding and Native growth is significant, so it's mae more sense to keep the status quo. The other case (even larger ABJNE, being quite populated isn't good).

[MaxQue]

The Quebec federal commission used 3 regional groupings. Montreal, North of St. Lawrence, South of St. Lawrence.

It would make sense to keep them, because it is sure than the St. Lawrence must not be crossed and than Montreal has to be left alone.

[MaxQue]

The Quebec federal commission used 3 regional groupings. Montreal, North of St. Lawrence, South of St. Lawrence.

It would make sense to keep them, because it is sure than the St. Lawrence must not be crossed and than Montreal has to be left alone.

Vaudreuil-Soulanges is too big now to be one riding, so I reckon a new riding will be created that will cross over into Montreal like V-S did in the 1980s.

Another option is possible. They can go in the Salaberry Island (currently in Beauharnois-Salaberry) direction and split V-S, to do a Vaudreuil riding and a Salaberry-Soulanges one.

If I remember well, the bridge between Soulanges area and Salaberry Island was enlarged to a 4 lanes one a few years ago.

[MaxQue]

The Quebec federal commission used 3 regional groupings. Montreal, North of St. Lawrence, South of St. Lawrence.

It would make sense to keep them, because it is sure than the St. Lawrence must not be crossed and than Montreal has to be left alone.

Vaudreuil-Soulanges is too big now to be one riding, so I reckon a new riding will be created that will cross over into Montreal like V-S did in the 1980s.

Another option is possible. They can go in the Salaberry Island (currently in Beauharnois-Salaberry) direction and split V-S, to do a Vaudreuil riding and a Salaberry-Soulanges one.

If I remember well, the bridge between Soulanges area and Salaberry Island was enlarged to a 4 lanes one a few years ago.

True, but that requires crossing the St. Lawrence.

At that place, it isn't a problem to cross it.

[MaxQue]

I don't know for natural connections, but, the riding isn't so much overpopulated. Splitting it and going into Montreal would have an huge domino effect.

EDIT: It existed on the provincial level from 1989 to 2001, covering the southern half of Soulanges, Salaberry Island and two villages on the South Shore. Was split in 2001. Now, Soulanges covers most of Soulanges (except very urban places, which are in Vaudreuil) and Beauharnois, which cover Beauharnois, Maple Grove, Salaberry Island and three villages.

I would play around with the numbers, but any idea of what the quota is?

[MaxQue]

I edited the previous post, sorry.

EDIT: To add to my previous post,it would be logic, since it is how it went on Quebec side. A Vaudreuil-Soulanges to begin, then a Vaudreuil and a Salaberry-Soulanges and finally a Vaudreuil and a Soulanges. If growth continue in that area, it will eventually happen.

[MaxQue]

Basic numbers.

Vaudreuil (Vaudreuil-Dorion, Hudson, Vaudreuil-sur-le-Lac, Pointe-des-Cascades, St. Lazare, Rigaud, Perrot Island):105,826

Salaberry-Soulanges (Removed towns + Salaberry Island): 73,604. Expanding around Salabarry and into Beauhardois should do the job, no?

[MaxQue]

The quotient in QC is 101321 by the way.

I know. But I can't cut more into Vaudreuil without spliting a town or drawing something with no road link and the other riding isn't finished.

[MaxQue]

Glad you like the map. I dont know if the commission accepts proposals? If it does, then I will send all my maps

Last time, they only held public hearings, but, we don't know.
Last year, for Quebec redistricting, they allowed to send documents and comments by internet after the proposed map was published.

[MaxQue]

Well, for now. Some Portuguese association could sue than their community of interest was split, like Acadians did in 2004 about Acadie-Bathurst.

I don't think this would work, but, who knows with courts?

[MaxQue]

The official website for redistricting is open.

http://www.redecoupage-federal-redistribution.ca

[MaxQue]

Some, since they began working at the end of April last time, I think we can expect first results in May?

[MaxQue]

http://www.redecoupage-federal-redistribution.ca/content.asp?section=nfld&dir=media&document=may2512&lang=e

Newfoundland proposal redistricting.

Wierd proposal. Labrador and St.John's South-Mount Pearl are kept as they are.
The rest is cut in vertical slices!

The west coast is "Long Range Mountains" (a truly wierd name), the center is "Bay d'Espoir-Central-Notre Dame", after there is "Bonavista-Burin-Trinity", which looks like the old Bonavista-Trinity-Conception, but without Conception and with Burin, "Avalon which cover rural Avalon (except Trinity area).

[MaxQue]

Well, the report seems to say than the central north/south road is new, so there was no connection before.

[MaxQue]

For the order of parts inside names, it doesn't seem linked to population or importance of the area, but rather to the alphabetical order.

[MaxQue]

This year, NL was published a Friday.

[MaxQue]

Miramichi is complicated since the only direction it can expand is towards Moncton, as they can't tough to Southern NB (well, they can, but it would go the courts again and be stuck down again), forcing an ugly redraw.

Tobique-Saint John River Valley is a bit strange name (and even more in French, Tobique-La Vallée de la Rivière Saint-Jean, especially with the La).

They seem to like ramdom appendages. the Frederiction one going to Burton, the Tobique on going to Minto, the strange U border between NBSW and Fundy-Quispamsis.

[MaxQue]

Hmm, Beausejour is over populated, why not shift some of its territory to Miramichi?

They said than the coastal area was a community of interest and Miramichi was already too big.

[MaxQue]

Yes, I agree than they were too much pro status quo. But I maintain than the Miramichi thing is than they are over-cautious over the French/English divide and over court contestation

Note than changing too much things is possible, like the Quebec commission was last time, which led to weird boundaries which were returned to status quo after the audiences.

[MaxQue]

At least, they didn't reproprosed the very strange proposal of 2004 of putting all reservations in Miramichi, no matter where they were in the province.

[MaxQue]

From what I see Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca is broke in two (Cowichan South-Juan de Fuca and Esquimalt-Colwood).

Does it is a fast growing suburban area?

Burnaty North-Seymour is weird, it crosses Fraser and doesn't both sides of a bridge.

[MaxQue]

Strange way of drawing a new Vancourver riding. Touching the less possible the other riding and making one from the parts removed, which give a strange shape to the new riding.