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« Reply #425 on: May 06, 2012, 10:48:55 pm »
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Fun times ahead for Greece!
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« Reply #426 on: May 06, 2012, 11:01:49 pm »
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Poor Greek Greens.  2.93%.
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« Reply #427 on: May 07, 2012, 01:58:44 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 
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« Reply #428 on: May 07, 2012, 04:47:35 am »
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'Not in Parl/mnt' is the winning 'party' now.
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« Reply #429 on: May 07, 2012, 05:26:04 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.
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« Reply #430 on: May 07, 2012, 05:53:48 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

The thought that any share of anyone's compatriots voted neonazis inside a parliament is not only depressive, but is another argument against mankind.
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« Reply #431 on: May 07, 2012, 07:07:14 am »
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Markets reacting predictably; Greek Stock Market was down 8.2% before a slight rally that's "only" left it down 6% for the day.

In other news, DIMAR has ruled out the possibility of a coalition with ND and/or PASOK.
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« Reply #432 on: May 07, 2012, 07:25:24 am »
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Also, looks like I misunderstood the Greek Constitution- process doesn't start when Parliament's seated, it starts now. President Papoulias just gave an exploratory mandate to the ND leader. If he's going to get a Government, he's got 71.5 hours for the bribes to go through. Tongue
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« Reply #433 on: May 07, 2012, 07:27:13 am »
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149 seats for Pasok+ND...
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« Reply #434 on: May 07, 2012, 07:29:22 am »
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« Reply #435 on: May 07, 2012, 08:08:08 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.
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« Reply #436 on: May 07, 2012, 08:14:38 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.
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« Reply #437 on: May 07, 2012, 08:52:56 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...
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« Reply #438 on: May 07, 2012, 09:03:37 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?
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« Reply #439 on: May 07, 2012, 09:14:54 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.
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« Reply #440 on: May 07, 2012, 09:42:00 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

Is there some especial reason why it's unfair to make disparaging remarks about Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn?
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« Reply #441 on: May 07, 2012, 09:45:49 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

Is there some especial reason why it's unfair to make disparaging remarks about Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn?

No. Don't be silly. But they aren't "Greeks", they are Greeks who have done something specific.
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« Reply #442 on: May 07, 2012, 09:48:45 am »
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the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.

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« Reply #443 on: May 07, 2012, 09:51:11 am »
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Tweed, you have lost me now.
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« Reply #444 on: May 07, 2012, 09:52:36 am »
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The thought that 435 thousand of my compatriots voted the Neo-Nazis is enough to give me a depression.
 

That's truly frightening that the wonderful, peace creating Euro has allowed national socialists to enter a European parliament again.

Would it be banal of me to reflect that currencies, being abstractions, can't vote.

That's true, but exactly by being abstractions they can influence society and politics much more than us, physical beings.

Yes, but so do many other things...

And which other boosted utterly-retarded votes in Greece?

Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

Is there some especial reason why it's unfair to make disparaging remarks about Greeks who voted for Golden Dawn?

No. Don't be silly. But they aren't "Greeks", they are Greeks who have done something specific.

It was the votes that were described as utterly-retarded.


the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.



Nope. Not when there are better options available, which is very, very, very seldom NOT the case.
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« Reply #445 on: May 07, 2012, 09:53:30 am »
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Tweed, you have lost me now.

the point is to break out of the grip of the international financial institutions: THE crucial plank shared by the far right and Left (Syriza, KKE insofar as it has an actual platform, and GD).  then once that is done, the vacuum is created and we can slug it out on the streets.
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« Reply #446 on: May 07, 2012, 09:54:57 am »
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Tweed, you have lost me now.

the point is to break out of the grip of the international financial institutions: THE crucial plank shared by the far right and Left (Syriza, KKE insofar as it has an actual platform, and GD).  then once that is done, the vacuum is created and we can slug it out on the streets.

The problem is I'm not confident in the chances at that point. The far right seems a lot more brutal.
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« Reply #447 on: May 07, 2012, 09:56:27 am »
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@Nathan: It's not clear to whom he was referring with his [batmacumba] comments about 'retarded votes'. I hope it is the neonazis but I can't be sure, look at attitudes the likes of Franzl have constantly displayed in threads on this issue to see this.

the Left should support the anti-austerity far right in certain strategic situations.


Tweed, you have lost me now.

the point is to break out of the grip of the international financial institutions: THE crucial plank shared by the far right and Left (Syriza, KKE insofar as it has an actual platform, and GD).  then once that is done, the vacuum is created and we can slug it out on the streets.

Do I really need to explain why this is a terrible idea?
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« Reply #448 on: May 07, 2012, 10:01:09 am »
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there are reasons why it could or would be, but I would be interested to hear why you would think it so.
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« Reply #449 on: May 07, 2012, 10:03:58 am »
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Can we at least go a few minutes without marking disparaging remarks about Greeks? I know some forumers seem to find that very difficult but hey, fairness and analysis and all that.

No.  My grandparents who hailed from Greece just had their burning desire to get the hell out of there asap when they were young, validated.
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