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« Reply #750 on: May 19, 2012, 06:58:15 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.

Phil, what are your thoughts on Giuseppe Garibaldi?
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« Reply #751 on: May 19, 2012, 07:49:46 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.

Phil, what are your thoughts on Giuseppe Garibaldi?

Love him, of course. I'm proud of my southern roots and don't like when others beat up on the South but I obviously support Italian nationalism.
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« Reply #752 on: May 19, 2012, 10:38:22 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.

Phil, what are your thoughts on Giuseppe Garibaldi?

Love him, of course. I'm proud of my southern roots and don't like when others beat up on the South but I obviously support Italian nationalism.

Same here. I have ancestors from the Two Sicilies and ancestors from Milan and I'm proud of my roots with both sets, for some similar and some different reasons.
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« Reply #753 on: May 20, 2012, 06:23:57 am »
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Four new polls out today. Two of them show SYRIZA ahead and the other two ND. PASOK is on the rise too, the smaller parties fade. This is going to be a polarizing election.
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« Reply #754 on: May 20, 2012, 06:30:42 am »
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Four new polls out today. Two of them show SYRIZA ahead and the other two ND. PASOK is on the rise too, the smaller parties fade. This is going to be a polarizing election.

Oh! May we ask for full poll results?
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« Reply #755 on: May 20, 2012, 10:43:48 am »
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And Public Issue's poll:

SYRIZA 28%
ΝD        24%
PASOK 15%
ΑNEL      8%
DIMAR     7%
KKE        5%
XA          4,5
DIMIOURGIA XANA 3%
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« Reply #756 on: May 20, 2012, 10:51:07 am »
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Greece increasingly reminds me of that guy in that Scary Movie clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMpCud1IwQ
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« Reply #757 on: May 20, 2012, 11:37:24 am »
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Four new polls out today. Two of them show SYRIZA ahead and the other two ND. PASOK is on the rise too, the smaller parties fade. This is going to be a polarizing election.

Good. This, actually, might give Greece a government.
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« Reply #758 on: May 20, 2012, 11:45:59 am »
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How are LAOS doing?
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« Reply #759 on: May 20, 2012, 11:49:44 am »
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What is dimiourga xana ?
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« Reply #760 on: May 20, 2012, 11:55:28 am »
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Goddamnit, another nazi party ? *__*
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« Reply #761 on: May 20, 2012, 12:16:47 pm »
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According to Wikipedia, Dimiourgia Xana ("Recreate Greece") is a pro-European centre-right party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreate_Greece
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« Reply #762 on: May 20, 2012, 12:22:01 pm »
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What is dimiourga xana ?

A Neo-liberal party. It was founded recently by a businessman. You won't like it a bit.

How are LAOS doing?

Terribly.
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« Reply #763 on: May 20, 2012, 12:25:53 pm »
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Do you think that the neo-liberals will coalesce behind one party? DISY and DRASI haven't been registering support in the last few polls while Recreate Greece is performing slightly better than their electoral support, which was a clear over-performance considering they were founded a few months ago.
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« Reply #764 on: May 20, 2012, 12:32:49 pm »
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Do you think that the neo-liberals will coalesce behind one party? DISY and DRASI haven't been registering support in the last few polls while Recreate Greece is performing slightly better than their electoral support, which was a clear over-performance considering they were founded a few months ago.

Conservatives are already coalescing behind ND to stop SYRIZA. DISY's president Dora Bakoyianni is close to a deal with Samaras and DRASI will probably abstain from this election.
LAOS, ANEL and XA have also seen their numbers come down sharply as their voters are simply terrified after what they have seen and heard till now by the members of SYRIZA.

PASOK is also registering a slight uptick, probably old voters who stayed out on May 6 or voted for SYRIZA, DIMAR and KKE.
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« Reply #765 on: May 20, 2012, 12:45:59 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)
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« Reply #766 on: May 20, 2012, 12:51:51 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)

Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.
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« Reply #767 on: May 20, 2012, 02:02:38 pm »
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I'm sure ANEL support is also going to SYRIZA, given their closeness to the bonus.
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« Reply #768 on: May 20, 2012, 02:06:08 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)
Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.

^^^^^

Really, voting out of 'spite' is about the worst thing that Greeks can do at this point.
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« Reply #769 on: May 20, 2012, 02:07:42 pm »

Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)

Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.

I don't want to intervene in this debate... but I'll hang my colours to the mast with this. As much as telling Merkie to go f- herself would be fun, the results would be terrible for Greece and for Europe as a whole.

If I were Greek, I'd probably hold my nose and vote ND at this point. They're a terrible party, but I'm not one to join on Tsipras' bandwagon. That guy is a tool and/or moron.
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« Reply #770 on: May 20, 2012, 02:08:13 pm »
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I am sorry. I didn't mean Nazis in the literal sense. Just that they are a horrible party Wink
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« Reply #771 on: May 20, 2012, 02:16:58 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)

Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.

I don't want to intervene in this debate... but I'll hang my colours to the mast with this. As much as telling Merkie to go f- herself would be fun, the results would be terrible for Greece and for Europe as a whole.

If I were Greek, I'd probably hold my nose and vote ND at this point. They're a terrible party, but I'm not one to join on Tsipras' bandwagon. That guy is a tool and/or moron.

I agree, and in fact there may be a bonus, ND may discredit itself to the same point as PASOK did, which mean both ND and PASOK get to clean up after themself, and at the same time the Greeks get rid of these two parties as the only major forces in Greek politic. 
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« Reply #772 on: May 20, 2012, 02:17:39 pm »
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I am sorry. I didn't mean Nazis in the literal sense. Just that they are a horrible party Wink

Yeah, after we got to know Golden Dawn, one should be much more careful in using the word. Wink
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Some of them have been twisted by the enemy
until they can no longer be recognized.

Now what is wrong, or false, in what we have said?
Just some parts, or everything?
On whom can we still rely? Are we survivors, cast
away by the current? Will we be left behind,
no longer understanding anyone and being understood by no one?
Must we rely on luck?

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no answer but your own.


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« Reply #773 on: May 20, 2012, 02:26:35 pm »
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Merkel fanboys who want to ban public demonstrations and sound as if they'd rather like to ban the KKE.
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« Reply #774 on: May 20, 2012, 02:41:30 pm »
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LOL masochists LOL
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Some of them have been twisted by the enemy
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Now what is wrong, or false, in what we have said?
Just some parts, or everything?
On whom can we still rely? Are we survivors, cast
away by the current? Will we be left behind,
no longer understanding anyone and being understood by no one?
Must we rely on luck?

This is what you ask. Expect
no answer but your own.


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