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« Reply #875 on: June 15, 2012, 12:50:16 AM »

My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.
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« Reply #876 on: June 15, 2012, 03:59:21 AM »

My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.

Yeah, that'll teach us a lesson. It's attitudes like this that make me certain that the entire Euro is a stupid idea. Mooch off of the participants that are responsible and then throw a fit when mummy won't tolerate it any longer.

For their own sake, I hope the Greek voters are more responsible than that. It'd heard them a lot more than us.
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« Reply #877 on: June 15, 2012, 04:20:59 AM »

My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.

Yeah, that'll teach us a lesson. It's attitudes like this that make me certain that the entire Euro is a stupid idea. Mooch off of the participants that are responsible and then throw a fit when mummy won't tolerate it any longer.

For their own sake, I hope the Greek voters are more responsible than that. It'd heard them a lot more than us.
Europe fed Greeks well enough before Euro.
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« Reply #878 on: June 15, 2012, 07:43:05 AM »

My prediction:

ND 28
SRYZA 26
PASOK 14
DIMAR 7
ANEL 6
KKE 4
XA 4
DX! 3
LAOS 2 (yes, I think it'll overperform)
Greens 2
Others 3
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« Reply #879 on: June 15, 2012, 10:09:06 AM »

I've read rumours lately that recent opinion polls (which haven't been published) show ND ahead.  Hope the election doesn't end up like that. 

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« Reply #880 on: June 15, 2012, 10:13:24 AM »

It's a shame the Greens and SYRIZA couldn't work something out.
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« Reply #881 on: June 15, 2012, 11:51:52 AM »

I'd use ChrA.


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« Reply #882 on: June 15, 2012, 04:59:42 PM »

After having supported SYRIZA last elections, and after switching my support to PASOK last month, I switch back my endorsement to Tsipiras. He HAS to win this election. Capitalism as we know it in Europe is not working. Tsipiras could change it. Samaras or Venizelos will not.
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« Reply #883 on: June 16, 2012, 05:12:53 AM »

My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.

Yeah, that'll teach us a lesson. It's attitudes like this that make me certain that the entire Euro is a stupid idea. Mooch off of the participants that are responsible and then throw a fit when mummy won't tolerate it any longer.

For their own sake, I hope the Greek voters are more responsible than that. It'd heard them a lot more than us.
Europe fed Greeks well enough before Euro.
This.
And Europe was the one which closed both eyes when Greece,Austria,Germany and 90% of the countries were falsifying their budgets so that they could be within the Maastricht Criteria...
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« Reply #884 on: June 16, 2012, 12:58:25 PM »

What I'm hoping is that maybe there's been a "shy SYRIZA" factor here.  For any Greeks on this board, are there any people who might be somewhat embarrassed to say that they want to vote for SYRIZA, given the way it's being demonized as a party that will lead to a "Grexit?" 
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« Reply #885 on: June 16, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »

Consider that if I remember correctly the 'radical' parties in general slightly underpolled at the last election, and there wasn't a terribly big expectation that ND would slip below 20%.
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« Reply #886 on: June 16, 2012, 03:14:37 PM »

Any results yet?  This board seems awfully quiet for election day.
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« Reply #887 on: June 16, 2012, 03:25:37 PM »

Is it morning in Greece already?
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« Reply #888 on: June 16, 2012, 03:39:44 PM »

Is it morning in Greece already?

It's nearly midnight Saturday into Sunday.
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« Reply #889 on: June 16, 2012, 03:49:08 PM »

I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
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« Reply #890 on: June 16, 2012, 04:00:37 PM »

I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority. 
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« Reply #891 on: June 16, 2012, 04:06:18 PM »

I'm with Nagas, but I also support a Grexit.
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« Reply #892 on: June 16, 2012, 04:09:29 PM »

I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority.  

That won't matter as DIMAR don't want to work with SYRIZA.

The most likely outcome should SYRIZA be the largest party is yet another deadlock actually (even if the KKE finally decide to drop their wearing sectarianism).
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« Reply #893 on: June 16, 2012, 04:23:33 PM »

The Greeks are screwed either way. I feel sorry for them, no population deserves this.
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« Reply #894 on: June 16, 2012, 04:56:59 PM »

I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority.  

That won't matter as DIMAR don't want to work with SYRIZA.

The most likely outcome should SYRIZA be the largest party is yet another deadlock actually (even if the KKE finally decide to drop their wearing sectarianism).
Really?  I just thought they want guarantees for staying in the Eurozone.  And that Greece won't default. 
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« Reply #895 on: June 16, 2012, 04:57:48 PM »

I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority.  

That won't matter as DIMAR don't want to work with SYRIZA.

The most likely outcome should SYRIZA be the largest party is yet another deadlock actually (even if the KKE finally decide to drop their wearing sectarianism).
Really?  I just thought they want guarantees for staying in the Eurozone.  And that Greece won't default. 

Exactly.
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« Reply #896 on: June 16, 2012, 05:03:55 PM »

Oh.  That's what you mean.  Well, that's why I'm hoping for a SYRIZA/DIMAR government.  Anti-austerity, but still some fiscal/Euro competence.  But if DIMAR won't opt for SYRIZA, then my hope: SYRIZA majority! 

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« Reply #897 on: June 16, 2012, 05:07:05 PM »

There is no such thing as "anti-austerity," except as a lie, a dream. The pot at the end of the rainbow to that one is north of the Alps.
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« Reply #898 on: June 16, 2012, 05:12:39 PM »

There is no such thing as "anti-austerity," except as a lie, a dream. The pot at the end of the rainbow to that one is north of the Alps.

The pot was already given over at very low interest rates years earlier and the leprechauns now want it back and they are very, very persistent.
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« Reply #899 on: June 16, 2012, 05:21:39 PM »

There is no such thing as "anti-austerity," except as a lie, a dream. The pot at the end of the rainbow to that one is north of the Alps.

The pot was already given over at very low interest rates years earlier and the leprechauns now want it back and they are very, very persistent.

Just give it to them - not what they had but enough to prevent disaster from occurring. The well-being of one's neighbor is one's well-being, as well, to some extent. I would say the same about post WWI reparations as well.
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