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« Reply #100 on: February 18, 2012, 02:31:40 pm »
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I heard a Greek commentator on euronews 2 days ago (and people invited by euronews use to be worth listening), saying that the political scene was really upside down, that nobody had no clue about the way it could evolve and that things could change in one day. So, given that it remains 2 months, I guess most predictions/polls wouldn't be tell much outside of confirming a messy situation. Ah well, that's the most I reminded from what he said, it was in the night, in English and I was barely half awaken, Tongue.

I'd stick to my personal feeling so far, that, maybe the situation will be very wavy, but that in then end people would accept EU 'diktat' (fancy to use this word for something mainly directed by Germany). That being said, who knows...
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Money became totally unfair.
Money became totally senseless.
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« Reply #101 on: February 18, 2012, 02:43:40 pm »
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The left parties would have to beat ND by 15.4% to win more seats than ND. That's looking like it might actually be possible.
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« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2012, 12:18:20 am »
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PASOK 11 (-1) (-32.9)

Citizens Chariot 2 (-0.5)




in greece, right and left colors are based on byzantium traditions of chariot racing

the favorite team of the people is the green team, as the elite prefere the blue team.


thus, the actual "socialist" party, PASOK is identified with green, and so is the popular football club of athens PanathinaÔkos


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« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2012, 04:24:43 pm »
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Interesting. I had been wondering what the significance of green was. I knew about the Blue and Green chariot teams in Rome and Byzantium, but I hadn't connected the two.
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« Reply #104 on: March 31, 2012, 05:28:15 am »
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Have the elections officially been scheduled yet ?
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« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2012, 06:41:44 am »
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Have the elections officially been scheduled yet ?

*coughcough*
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« Reply #106 on: April 01, 2012, 07:02:54 am »
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They'll be held when Angela Merkel sees a chance of victory for her goons. Not before.

They haven't been officially called yet.
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« Reply #107 on: April 01, 2012, 07:07:39 am »
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I've read somewhere that PASOK is rising in the polls.

Maybe they win this thing (if the election is called in a few months) ... Tongue
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« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2012, 07:20:24 am »
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I've read somewhere that PASOK is rising in the polls.

All the way up to 15%. ND are down to 22%. This is going to be a different election.
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« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2012, 07:23:31 am »
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The major polling development of the last month has been the rise of yet another new party, ANEL, a populist/anti-diktat ND splinter.
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« Reply #110 on: April 01, 2012, 07:28:49 am »
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They'll be held when Angela Merkel sees a chance of victory for her goons. Not before.

They haven't been officially called yet.

The coalition would gain a majority if the elections are held now. Maybe this will not be the case in 6 months.
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« Reply #111 on: April 01, 2012, 02:48:59 pm »
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Results based on recent polling:



Thanks to the 19 Nazi seats, no possible grouping has a majority.
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« Reply #112 on: April 01, 2012, 03:28:36 pm »

It appears as if the even-scarier XA has taken LAOS' support.
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« Reply #113 on: April 01, 2012, 03:35:18 pm »
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They'll be held when Angela Merkel sees a chance of victory for her goons. Not before.

They haven't been officially called yet.

The coalition would gain a majority if the elections are held now. Maybe this will not be the case in 6 months.
I'm referring to an ND majority. I'm also being mildly caustic. Tongue
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« Reply #114 on: April 01, 2012, 03:40:39 pm »
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Results based on recent polling:



Thanks to the 19 Nazi seats, no possible grouping has a majority.

What kind of party is AN.EL. ?
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« Reply #115 on: April 01, 2012, 03:58:48 pm »
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The major polling development of the last month has been the rise of yet another new party, ANEL, a populist/anti-diktat ND splinter.
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« Reply #116 on: April 01, 2012, 04:31:25 pm »
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Sorry, I skipped this post. Well, that sucks.
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« Reply #117 on: April 01, 2012, 04:33:35 pm »
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Results based on recent polling:



Thanks to the 19 Nazi seats, no possible grouping has a majority.

What kind of party is AN.EL. ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Greeks
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« Reply #118 on: April 03, 2012, 04:20:49 am »
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Sorry, I skipped this post. Well, that sucks.
Not really, seeing as they are drawing votes from ND. Grin
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« Reply #119 on: April 03, 2012, 11:12:55 am »
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Sorry, I skipped this post. Well, that sucks.
Not really, seeing as they are drawing votes from ND. Grin

As much as I despise ND, I tend to think the populist right is always a bad thing. And especially in Greece's context.
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« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2012, 01:37:39 pm »
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Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?
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« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2012, 04:55:11 pm »
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Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

It's probably going to be a very "colorful" combination of people no matter who wins the most seats.
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« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2012, 09:27:11 pm »
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Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

A PASOK-ND coalition may be possible, although it won't exactly have a comfortable majority. If the two parties don't have a majority, they may get it if they let the Nazis in. It seems like they might be underpolling (one would certainly expect LAOS to be doing better, although participating in the government wasn't good for them from an electoral standpoint); does anyone know whether the Greek far-right generally underpolls?
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« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2012, 09:39:39 pm »
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Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

A PASOK-ND coalition may be possible, although it won't exactly have a comfortable majority. If the two parties don't have a majority, they may get it if they let the Nazis in. It seems like they might be underpolling (one would certainly expect LAOS to be doing better, although participating in the government wasn't good for them from an electoral standpoint); does anyone know whether the Greek far-right generally underpolls?

I'm under the impression that the far-right underpolls everywhere.
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« Reply #124 on: April 04, 2012, 05:06:17 pm »
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Another posibility to Troika's gang victory maybe Dora Bakoyannis' fan club running under PASOK umbrella. Although that would cause problems with Samaras.
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