Greece 2012

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

I heard a Greek commentator on euronews 2 days ago (and people invited by euronews use to be worth listening), saying that the political scene was really upside down, that nobody had no clue about the way it could evolve and that things could change in one day. So, given that it remains 2 months, I guess most predictions/polls wouldn't be tell much outside of confirming a messy situation. Ah well, that's the most I reminded from what he said, it was in the night, in English and I was barely half awaken, .

I'd stick to my personal feeling so far, that, maybe the situation will be very wavy, but that in then end people would accept EU 'diktat' (fancy to use this word for something mainly directed by Germany). That being said, who knows...

[Χahar]

The left parties would have to beat ND by 15.4% to win more seats than ND. That's looking like it might actually be possible.

[Colbert]

PASOK 11 (-1) (-32.9)

Citizens Chariot 2 (-0.5)

in greece, right and left colors are based on byzantium traditions of chariot racing

the favorite team of the people is the green team, as the elite prefere the blue team.


thus, the actual "socialist" party, PASOK is identified with green, and so is the popular football club of athens Panathinaïkos

[asexual trans victimologist]

Interesting. I had been wondering what the significance of green was. I knew about the Blue and Green chariot teams in Rome and Byzantium, but I hadn't connected the two.

[Californian Tony]

Have the elections officially been scheduled yet ?

[Californian Tony]

Have the elections officially been scheduled yet ?

*coughcough*

[Vasall des Midas]

They'll be held when Angela Merkel sees a chance of victory for her goons. Not before.

They haven't been officially called yet.

[Tender Branson]

I've read somewhere that PASOK is rising in the polls.

Maybe they win this thing (if the election is called in a few months) ...

[Sibboleth]

I've read somewhere that PASOK is rising in the polls.

All the way up to 15%. ND are down to 22%. This is going to be a different election.

[Vasall des Midas]

The major polling development of the last month has been the rise of yet another new party, ANEL, a populist/anti-diktat ND splinter.

[Californian Tony]

They'll be held when Angela Merkel sees a chance of victory for her goons. Not before.

They haven't been officially called yet.

The coalition would gain a majority if the elections are held now. Maybe this will not be the case in 6 months.

[Χahar]

Results based on recent polling:



Thanks to the 19 Nazi seats, no possible grouping has a majority.

[Hashemite]

It appears as if the even-scarier XA has taken LAOS' support.

[Vasall des Midas]

They'll be held when Angela Merkel sees a chance of victory for her goons. Not before.

They haven't been officially called yet.

The coalition would gain a majority if the elections are held now. Maybe this will not be the case in 6 months.

I'm referring to an ND majority. I'm also being mildly caustic.

[Californian Tony]

Results based on recent polling:



Thanks to the 19 Nazi seats, no possible grouping has a majority.

What kind of party is AN.EL. ?

[Vasall des Midas]

The major polling development of the last month has been the rise of yet another new party, ANEL, a populist/anti-diktat ND splinter.

[Californian Tony]

Sorry, I skipped this post. Well, that sucks.

[ObserverIE]

Results based on recent polling:



Thanks to the 19 Nazi seats, no possible grouping has a majority.

What kind of party is AN.EL. ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Greeks

[Vasall des Midas]

Sorry, I skipped this post. Well, that sucks.

Not really, seeing as they are drawing votes from ND.

[Californian Tony]

Sorry, I skipped this post. Well, that sucks.

Not really, seeing as they are drawing votes from ND.

As much as I despise ND, I tend to think the populist right is always a bad thing. And especially in Greece's context.

[crypto-fascist superhero]

Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

[redcommander]

Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

It's probably going to be a very "colorful" combination of people no matter who wins the most seats.

[Χahar]

Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

A PASOK-ND coalition may be possible, although it won't exactly have a comfortable majority. If the two parties don't have a majority, they may get it if they let the Nazis in. It seems like they might be underpolling (one would certainly expect LAOS to be doing better, although participating in the government wasn't good for them from an electoral standpoint); does anyone know whether the Greek far-right generally underpolls?

[You kip if you want to...]

Is it even going to be possible for anyone to form a government with the current numbers?

A PASOK-ND coalition may be possible, although it won't exactly have a comfortable majority. If the two parties don't have a majority, they may get it if they let the Nazis in. It seems like they might be underpolling (one would certainly expect LAOS to be doing better, although participating in the government wasn't good for them from an electoral standpoint); does anyone know whether the Greek far-right generally underpolls?

I'm under the impression that the far-right underpolls everywhere.

[RodPresident]

Another posibility to Troika's gang victory maybe Dora Bakoyannis' fan club running under PASOK umbrella. Although that would cause problems with Samaras.