Greece 2012

[Insula Dei]

6th of May.

[Formerly Californian Tony]

6th of May.

Wow, just like France ? That's gonna be a big night...

[Vasall des Midas]

Cool.

[Insula Dei]

6th of May.

Wow, just like France ? That's gonna be a big night...

Hadn't thought of that yet. Yes, a very big night, though it may cost Greece the attention it deserves. (Though hopefully France isn't going to be suspenseful at all )

[You kip if you want to...]

What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

[Sibboleth]

What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

[The Mikado]

What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government? 

[I left.]

What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government? 

I suspect that solution would be more productive than anything the Greek voters will produce. Not that I would directly advocate doing it so blatantly

[Leftbehind]

Yeah, it's working wonders at the moment.

[politicus]

What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government? 

Greece still is a sovereign nation after all and they could declare bankruptcy and leave the Euro. It would be a very tough proces to go through, but they would safe their national honour. The present situation is just too humiliating.

[Vasall des Midas]

PASOK is rebounding. (And not at ND's expense.)

Averaging eight polls by eight different companies released over the past three days, leaving out the ninth one that isn't reweighted to 100% and doesn't tell undecideds apart from others.

ND 22.9
PASOK 16.5
Syriza 10.6
KKE 9.7
ANEL 9.4
Dimar 8.2
XA 5.1
LAOS 3.6
Greens 3.3
DISY 2.9
other 7.0 (some of these polls give breakouts to further parties, but none near the 3.0% threshold)
And then I added the totals and thought I had an error. And then I double-checked everything. And one of these pollsters is not reweighted to 100 but rather includes another 6.2 undecided / did not state (well it's abbreviated D.I./D.A. in the link.) Pah.

It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

[Formerly Californian Tony]

Why the Dimar collapse ?

[wormyguy]

Holy fwuck... the *actual* Nazis are polling at over 5%?

[Vasall des Midas]

Why the Dimar collapse ?

No idea, and we need px to wean himself off boring American elections and devote his attention here, but I would figure they'd be a logical intermediate host for disappointed PASOK voters floating back?

[You kip if you want to...]

More pressingly, WHY the "Golden Dawn" (Nazi) surge?

[Vasall des Midas]

Why wouldn't people reared on anticommunist rhetoric who are not dense (and not rich) enough to continue voting Conservative vote Nazi in such a near-apocalyptic crisis? That's what they've always done. LAOS of course have sold out; just be glad ANEL exists to draw enough of them off.

[Sibboleth]

New board rule: that particular party must always be referred to as 'Golden Shower'.

[Leftbehind]

It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

What? SYRIZA's split?

[You kip if you want to...]

It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

What? SYRIZA's split?

That's what the DIMAR is, I think.

[Vasall des Midas]

Also, lol at whoever decided that this picture needed to go into Golden Dawn's wikipedia entry:

[Vasall des Midas]

It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

What? SYRIZA's split?

That's what the DIMAR is, I think.

Yep, basically Syriza's moderate wing. (Since joined by several PASOK defectors.)

[Leftbehind]

Oh, I had thought DIMAR were created from the leftist rump departing from PASOK, not simply added to. Yeah, that is a shame.

[Vasall des Midas]

http://www.athensnews.gr/issue/13438/40086

Now-dated article that sheds some light on the issue.

[Leftbehind]

Cheers.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Why the Dimar collapse ?

No idea, and we need px to wean himself off boring American elections and devote his attention here, but I would figure they'd be a logical intermediate host for disappointed PASOK voters floating back?

Obviously you don't need my help. You pretty much nailed it.

More pressingly, WHY the "Golden Dawn" (Nazi) surge?

Because immigrants are always the easiest scapegoats during an economic crisis.