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« Reply #125 on: April 11, 2012, 02:14:55 pm »
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6th of May.
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« Reply #126 on: April 11, 2012, 02:24:32 pm »
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Wow, just like France ? That's gonna be a big night...
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« Reply #127 on: April 11, 2012, 02:26:43 pm »
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« Reply #128 on: April 11, 2012, 02:45:27 pm »
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Wow, just like France ? That's gonna be a big night...

Hadn't thought of that yet. Yes, a very big night, though it may cost Greece the attention it deserves. (Though hopefully France isn't going to be suspenseful at all Wink )
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« Reply #129 on: April 12, 2012, 11:31:35 am »
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What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?
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« Reply #130 on: April 12, 2012, 11:37:51 am »
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What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.
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« Reply #131 on: April 12, 2012, 04:47:29 pm »
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What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government?  Tongue
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« Reply #132 on: April 12, 2012, 04:48:30 pm »
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What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government?  Tongue

I suspect that solution would be more productive than anything the Greek voters will produce. Not that I would directly advocate doing it so blatantly Wink
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« Reply #133 on: April 12, 2012, 06:18:59 pm »
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Yeah, it's working wonders at the moment.
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« Reply #134 on: April 20, 2012, 03:01:08 pm »
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It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.
BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government?  Tongue
Greece still is a sovereign nation after all and they could declare bankruptcy and leave the Euro. It would be a very tough proces to go through, but they would safe their national honour. The present situation is just too humiliating.
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« Reply #135 on: April 21, 2012, 08:13:58 am »
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PASOK is rebounding. Sad (And not at ND's expense.)

Averaging eight polls by eight different companies released over the past three days, leaving out the ninth one that isn't reweighted to 100% and doesn't tell undecideds apart from others.

ND 22.9
PASOK 16.5
Syriza 10.6
KKE 9.7
ANEL 9.4
Dimar 8.2
XA 5.1
LAOS 3.6
Greens 3.3
DISY 2.9
other 7.0 (some of these polls give breakouts to further parties, but none near the 3.0% threshold)
And then I added the totals and thought I had an error. And then I double-checked everything. And one of these pollsters is not reweighted to 100 but rather includes another 6.2 undecided / did not state (well it's abbreviated D.I./D.A. in the link.) Pah.

It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.
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« Reply #136 on: April 21, 2012, 08:49:48 am »
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Why the Dimar collapse ?
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« Reply #137 on: April 21, 2012, 08:57:05 am »
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Holy fwuck... the *actual* Nazis are polling at over 5%?
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« Reply #138 on: April 21, 2012, 09:10:21 am »
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Why the Dimar collapse ?
No idea, and we need px to wean himself off boring American elections and devote his attention here, but I would figure they'd be a logical intermediate host for disappointed PASOK voters floating back?
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« Reply #139 on: April 21, 2012, 10:50:23 am »
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More pressingly, WHY the "Golden Dawn" (Nazi) surge?
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« Reply #140 on: April 21, 2012, 11:04:04 am »
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Why wouldn't people reared on anticommunist rhetoric who are not dense (and not rich) enough to continue voting Conservative vote Nazi in such a near-apocalyptic crisis? That's what they've always done. LAOS of course have sold out; just be glad ANEL exists to draw enough of them off. Tongue
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« Reply #141 on: April 21, 2012, 11:09:08 am »
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New board rule: that particular party must always be referred to as 'Golden Shower'.
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« Reply #142 on: April 21, 2012, 11:10:16 am »
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It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

What? SYRIZA's split?
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« Reply #143 on: April 21, 2012, 11:13:48 am »
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It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

What? SYRIZA's split?


That's what the DIMAR is, I think.
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« Reply #144 on: April 21, 2012, 11:14:30 am »
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Also, lol at whoever decided that this picture needed to go into Golden Dawn's wikipedia entry:

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« Reply #145 on: April 21, 2012, 11:15:12 am »
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It really is a shame about Syriza's split. They'd have a chance of actually winning this election without it. As is, there's the sceptre of a continued ND-PASOK government after the election thanks to the 50-seat bonus.

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That's what the DIMAR is, I think.
Yep, basically Syriza's moderate wing. (Since joined by several PASOK defectors.)
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« Reply #146 on: April 21, 2012, 11:20:51 am »
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Oh, I had thought DIMAR were created from the leftist rump departing from PASOK, not simply added to. Yeah, that is a shame.
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« Reply #147 on: April 21, 2012, 11:29:57 am »
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http://www.athensnews.gr/issue/13438/40086

Now-dated article that sheds some light on the issue.
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« Reply #148 on: April 21, 2012, 11:46:36 am »
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Cheers. Smiley
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« Reply #149 on: April 21, 2012, 05:28:55 pm »
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Why the Dimar collapse ?
No idea, and we need px to wean himself off boring American elections and devote his attention here, but I would figure they'd be a logical intermediate host for disappointed PASOK voters floating back?

Obviously you don't need my help. You pretty much nailed it.

More pressingly, WHY the "Golden Dawn" (Nazi) surge?

Because immigrants are always the easiest scapegoats during an economic crisis.
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