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« Reply #250 on: May 06, 2012, 12:34:37 pm »
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Hey guys, do you know how to get a permanent visa for Canada, Australia, the moon?
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« Reply #251 on: May 06, 2012, 12:36:12 pm »
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XA 15 seats


Terrible, just terrible.

Urgh, yeah. Quite.
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« Reply #252 on: May 06, 2012, 12:44:06 pm »
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I will probably vote DISY if for no other reason because they are the only reasonable and responsible voice in the current political cacophony.
And I had you down for PASOK-no-matter-what. Shocked
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« Reply #253 on: May 06, 2012, 12:46:36 pm »
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Can someone tell me why austerity is good or bad?
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« Reply #254 on: May 06, 2012, 12:48:16 pm »
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My hope is that DISY fails to enter parliament and Axis of Evil fails to get majority.
Axis of Evil? ND-PASOK-ANEL-Far Right(-DISY)? Tongue
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« Reply #255 on: May 06, 2012, 12:49:22 pm »
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Oh, cool. Cool Live results.

PASOK leading in Crete (lol), Syriza all over the metro and in Patras, ND in the Rhodopes and one more random place, KKE on Samos.
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« Reply #256 on: May 06, 2012, 12:54:01 pm »
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The Nazis at 7% right now, with about 1/5 counted.

Just like I expected them. They polled at about 5/6% before the election, but I predicted that they'll overpoll slightly, but not get more than 10%.
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« Reply #257 on: May 06, 2012, 12:55:22 pm »
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What's the last election where PASOK failed to be the largest party in all 4 Districts on Crete. 1977?
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« Reply #258 on: May 06, 2012, 12:57:16 pm »
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What's the last election where PASOK failed to be the largest party in all 4 Districts on Crete. 1977?
2004, actually. Freak result in Rhethymnon (usually their weakest), above average swing to ND that year, back to PASOK next time.
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« Reply #259 on: May 06, 2012, 01:07:49 pm »
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I haven't checked where results be from, but Laos, DISY and Greens all narrowishly below 3% atm. That ought to make finding a "majority" for Samaras a lot easier if it holds.
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« Reply #260 on: May 06, 2012, 01:13:12 pm »
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What's the last election where PASOK failed to be the largest party in all 4 Districts on Crete. 1977?
2004, actually. Freak result in Rhethymnon (usually their weakest), above average swing to ND that year, back to PASOK next time.

Well, might happen again today. SYRIZA ahead in Chanion with 18% reporting.
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« Reply #261 on: May 06, 2012, 01:14:28 pm »
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What's the last election where PASOK failed to be the largest party in all 4 Districts on Crete. 1977?
2004, actually. Freak result in Rhethymnon (usually their weakest), above average swing to ND that year, back to PASOK next time.

Well, might happen again today. SYRIZA ahead in Chanion with 18% reporting.
Oh, and in 1977 EK was the strongest party in Crete, not PASOK (nor ND).
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« Reply #262 on: May 06, 2012, 01:15:40 pm »
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ND is actually doing a lot worse than 2009.

KKE hasn't benefitted at all.
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« Reply #263 on: May 06, 2012, 01:17:52 pm »
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ND is actually doing a lot worse than 2009.

Hardly surprising, that.
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« Reply #264 on: May 06, 2012, 01:18:34 pm »
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KKE hasn't benefitted at all.

They will say as usually that they did everything right but the people were hoodwinked by the media and their puppetmasters.
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« Reply #265 on: May 06, 2012, 01:21:07 pm »
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KKE hasn't benefitted at all.

They will say as usually that they did everything right but the people were hoodwinked by the media and their puppetmasters.

And, as usual, the second part of the statement will be technically correct (if a little... well not irrelevant exactly...) And the first not. At all. Cheesy
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« Reply #266 on: May 06, 2012, 01:25:28 pm »
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Looks like PASOK just got pushed to 3rd.
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« Reply #267 on: May 06, 2012, 01:26:27 pm »
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You know, things might end up closeish for first place.

Though probably not.
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« Reply #268 on: May 06, 2012, 01:27:36 pm »
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KKE hasn't benefitted at all.

They will say as usually that they did everything right but the people were hoodwinked by the media and their puppetmasters.

And, as usual, the second part of the statement will be technically correct (if a little... well not irrelevant exactly...) And the first not. At all. Cheesy

ΚΚΕ has its own newspaper, radio and TV station.
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« Reply #269 on: May 06, 2012, 01:32:12 pm »
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KKE hasn't benefitted at all.

They will say as usually that they did everything right but the people were hoodwinked by the media and their puppetmasters.

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ΚΚΕ has its own newspaper, radio and TV station.
Which are, presumably, only listened to and read by the people already hoodwinked by them.

(Does help explain why they're so stable... though it's not as if western Commies didn't/don't have their own newspapers as well.)

I had been wondering regarding the many Greek pollsters quoted on wiki whether the trad. parties don't have their own pollsters as well?
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« Reply #270 on: May 06, 2012, 01:54:40 pm »
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The official website has the first seat estimate

ND: 114
SYRIZA: 47
PASOK: 44
ANEL: 31
KKE: 25
Nazis: 21
DIMAR: 18
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« Reply #271 on: May 06, 2012, 01:55:18 pm »

The Greek electoral system is rigged. I don't see how anybody who isn't a hack or an idiot can find anything good in that system.
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« Reply #272 on: May 06, 2012, 01:57:25 pm »
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Golden Dawn's top districts:

11.70% Korinthias
10.70% Lakonias
10.70% Argolidos
10.20% Attikis
9.15% Eyvoias
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« Reply #273 on: May 06, 2012, 02:01:36 pm »
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So with all the recent sprees of defections what would be a safe majority for an ND/PASOK coalition?
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« Reply #274 on: May 06, 2012, 02:02:18 pm »
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That's an... odd list. Attika and Negroponte (whatever the English transcription of Euböa is) have been good to LAOS as well, Morea the Peloponnese not really. And while the Peloponnese includes PASOK strongholds, ND strongholds, and more swingy areas, the list combines the latter with part of the middle ones. And other LAOS strongholds are missing.
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