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« Reply #750 on: May 19, 2012, 10:20:40 am »
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That image does show Northern Italy as a low evasion zone.

Of course, whoever counted? Whoever defined evasion? Heck, whoever claimed Germany was a low tax evasion country? Huh
If you look at the bottom,it shows how the amount of money evaded in the North is larger than that of the rest of Italy combined...

That's a rather dishonest way of comparing, you know.
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« Reply #751 on: May 19, 2012, 10:29:26 am »
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That image does show Northern Italy as a low evasion zone.

Of course, whoever counted? Whoever defined evasion? Heck, whoever claimed Germany was a low tax evasion country? Huh
If you look at the bottom,it shows how the amount of money evaded in the North is larger than that of the rest of Italy combined...
The text at the bottom seems to claim something completely different than the map does. Huh
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« Reply #752 on: May 19, 2012, 10:34:24 am »
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Well, the south evades more, but the South is way poorer than the North.
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« Reply #753 on: May 19, 2012, 10:34:42 am »
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That image does show Northern Italy as a low evasion zone.

Of course, whoever counted? Whoever defined evasion? Heck, whoever claimed Germany was a low tax evasion country? Huh
If you look at the bottom,it shows how the amount of money evaded in the North is larger than that of the rest of Italy combined...

That's a rather dishonest way of comparing, you know.
It would be if I were trying to prove that the evasion in the South is lower.

All I am trying to say is that the North is no paradise.
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« Reply #754 on: May 19, 2012, 06:55:25 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.
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« Reply #755 on: May 19, 2012, 06:58:15 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.

Phil, what are your thoughts on Giuseppe Garibaldi?
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« Reply #756 on: May 19, 2012, 07:49:46 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.

Phil, what are your thoughts on Giuseppe Garibaldi?

Love him, of course. I'm proud of my southern roots and don't like when others beat up on the South but I obviously support Italian nationalism.
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« Reply #757 on: May 19, 2012, 10:38:22 pm »
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The South is persecuted once again.

Phil, what are your thoughts on Giuseppe Garibaldi?

Love him, of course. I'm proud of my southern roots and don't like when others beat up on the South but I obviously support Italian nationalism.

Same here. I have ancestors from the Two Sicilies and ancestors from Milan and I'm proud of my roots with both sets, for some similar and some different reasons.
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« Reply #758 on: May 20, 2012, 06:23:57 am »
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Four new polls out today. Two of them show SYRIZA ahead and the other two ND. PASOK is on the rise too, the smaller parties fade. This is going to be a polarizing election.
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« Reply #759 on: May 20, 2012, 06:30:42 am »
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Four new polls out today. Two of them show SYRIZA ahead and the other two ND. PASOK is on the rise too, the smaller parties fade. This is going to be a polarizing election.

Oh! May we ask for full poll results?
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« Reply #760 on: May 20, 2012, 10:43:48 am »
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And Public Issue's poll:

SYRIZA 28%
ΝD        24%
PASOK 15%
ΑNEL      8%
DIMAR     7%
KKE        5%
XA          4,5
DIMIOURGIA XANA 3%
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« Reply #761 on: May 20, 2012, 10:51:07 am »
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Greece increasingly reminds me of that guy in that Scary Movie clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMpCud1IwQ
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« Reply #762 on: May 20, 2012, 11:37:24 am »
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Four new polls out today. Two of them show SYRIZA ahead and the other two ND. PASOK is on the rise too, the smaller parties fade. This is going to be a polarizing election.

Good. This, actually, might give Greece a government.
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« Reply #763 on: May 20, 2012, 11:45:59 am »
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How are LAOS doing?
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« Reply #764 on: May 20, 2012, 11:49:44 am »
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What is dimiourga xana ?
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« Reply #765 on: May 20, 2012, 11:55:28 am »
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Goddamnit, another nazi party ? *__*
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« Reply #766 on: May 20, 2012, 12:16:47 pm »
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^^

According to Wikipedia, Dimiourgia Xana ("Recreate Greece") is a pro-European centre-right party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreate_Greece
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« Reply #767 on: May 20, 2012, 12:22:01 pm »
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What is dimiourga xana ?

A Neo-liberal party. It was founded recently by a businessman. You won't like it a bit.

How are LAOS doing?

Terribly.
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« Reply #768 on: May 20, 2012, 12:25:53 pm »
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Do you think that the neo-liberals will coalesce behind one party? DISY and DRASI haven't been registering support in the last few polls while Recreate Greece is performing slightly better than their electoral support, which was a clear over-performance considering they were founded a few months ago.
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« Reply #769 on: May 20, 2012, 12:32:49 pm »
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Do you think that the neo-liberals will coalesce behind one party? DISY and DRASI haven't been registering support in the last few polls while Recreate Greece is performing slightly better than their electoral support, which was a clear over-performance considering they were founded a few months ago.

Conservatives are already coalescing behind ND to stop SYRIZA. DISY's president Dora Bakoyianni is close to a deal with Samaras and DRASI will probably abstain from this election.
LAOS, ANEL and XA have also seen their numbers come down sharply as their voters are simply terrified after what they have seen and heard till now by the members of SYRIZA.

PASOK is also registering a slight uptick, probably old voters who stayed out on May 6 or voted for SYRIZA, DIMAR and KKE.
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« Reply #770 on: May 20, 2012, 12:45:59 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)
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« Reply #771 on: May 20, 2012, 12:51:51 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)

Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.
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« Reply #772 on: May 20, 2012, 02:02:38 pm »
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I'm sure ANEL support is also going to SYRIZA, given their closeness to the bonus.
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« Reply #773 on: May 20, 2012, 02:06:08 pm »
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Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)
Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.

^^^^^

Really, voting out of 'spite' is about the worst thing that Greeks can do at this point.
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« Reply #774 on: May 20, 2012, 02:07:42 pm »

Let's hope for a SYRIZA-ANEL-DIMAR coalition.  SYRIZA-DIMAR seems unlikely at this point, but either way, it be the perfect middle finger to Merkel (let's hope Hollande sides with Greece if this government is the case.)

Yes for the Greeks to hang themselves is the best way to spite Merkel.

I don't want to intervene in this debate... but I'll hang my colours to the mast with this. As much as telling Merkie to go f- herself would be fun, the results would be terrible for Greece and for Europe as a whole.

If I were Greek, I'd probably hold my nose and vote ND at this point. They're a terrible party, but I'm not one to join on Tsipras' bandwagon. That guy is a tool and/or moron.
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