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« Reply #875 on: June 13, 2012, 01:49:06 pm »
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It's also XA in Greek and GD in English so I don't know where XD is coming from.
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« Reply #876 on: June 13, 2012, 08:35:36 pm »
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XD is a smilie/emoticon.
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« Reply #877 on: June 13, 2012, 09:20:49 pm »

Ok, can we call XD Golden Dawn?

No. The board rule is that they are to be called Golden Shower.
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« Reply #878 on: June 14, 2012, 03:41:55 am »
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Isn't that Rule 34 ? Wink
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« Reply #879 on: June 14, 2012, 06:37:21 am »
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My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
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« Reply #880 on: June 15, 2012, 12:50:16 am »
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My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.
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« Reply #881 on: June 15, 2012, 03:59:21 am »
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My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.

Yeah, that'll teach us a lesson. It's attitudes like this that make me certain that the entire Euro is a stupid idea. Mooch off of the participants that are responsible and then throw a fit when mummy won't tolerate it any longer.

For their own sake, I hope the Greek voters are more responsible than that. It'd heard them a lot more than us.
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« Reply #882 on: June 15, 2012, 04:20:59 am »
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My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.

Yeah, that'll teach us a lesson. It's attitudes like this that make me certain that the entire Euro is a stupid idea. Mooch off of the participants that are responsible and then throw a fit when mummy won't tolerate it any longer.

For their own sake, I hope the Greek voters are more responsible than that. It'd heard them a lot more than us.
Europe fed Greeks well enough before Euro.
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« Reply #883 on: June 15, 2012, 07:43:05 am »
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My prediction:

ND 28
SRYZA 26
PASOK 14
DIMAR 7
ANEL 6
KKE 4
XA 4
DX! 3
LAOS 2 (yes, I think it'll overperform)
Greens 2
Others 3
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« Reply #884 on: June 15, 2012, 10:09:06 am »
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I've read rumours lately that recent opinion polls (which haven't been published) show ND ahead.  Hope the election doesn't end up like that. 

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« Reply #885 on: June 15, 2012, 10:13:24 am »
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It's a shame the Greens and SYRIZA couldn't work something out.
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« Reply #886 on: June 15, 2012, 11:51:52 am »
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« Reply #887 on: June 15, 2012, 04:59:42 pm »
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After having supported SYRIZA last elections, and after switching my support to PASOK last month, I switch back my endorsement to Tsipiras. He HAS to win this election. Capitalism as we know it in Europe is not working. Tsipiras could change it. Samaras or Venizelos will not.
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« Reply #888 on: June 16, 2012, 05:12:53 am »
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My gut feeling is that ND is going to beat out SYRIZA.  It should be something like
ND       29
SYRIZA 25
PASOK  10

At this stage the desire to get to a stable governement should be overriding all other concerns. This should be enough for ND-PASOK to get a slim majority. 
lol why would Greeks want a stable government? It's pretty clear 80% of them hate Germany so they might as well go suicide bomb it.

Yeah, that'll teach us a lesson. It's attitudes like this that make me certain that the entire Euro is a stupid idea. Mooch off of the participants that are responsible and then throw a fit when mummy won't tolerate it any longer.

For their own sake, I hope the Greek voters are more responsible than that. It'd heard them a lot more than us.
Europe fed Greeks well enough before Euro.
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And Europe was the one which closed both eyes when Greece,Austria,Germany and 90% of the countries were falsifying their budgets so that they could be within the Maastricht Criteria...
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« Reply #889 on: June 16, 2012, 12:58:25 pm »
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What I'm hoping is that maybe there's been a "shy SYRIZA" factor here.  For any Greeks on this board, are there any people who might be somewhat embarrassed to say that they want to vote for SYRIZA, given the way it's being demonized as a party that will lead to a "Grexit?" 
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« Reply #890 on: June 16, 2012, 02:28:20 pm »
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Consider that if I remember correctly the 'radical' parties in general slightly underpolled at the last election, and there wasn't a terribly big expectation that ND would slip below 20%.
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« Reply #891 on: June 16, 2012, 03:14:37 pm »
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Any results yet?  This board seems awfully quiet for election day.
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« Reply #892 on: June 16, 2012, 03:25:37 pm »
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Is it morning in Greece already?
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« Reply #893 on: June 16, 2012, 03:39:44 pm »
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Is it morning in Greece already?

It's nearly midnight Saturday into Sunday.
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« Reply #894 on: June 16, 2012, 03:49:08 pm »
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I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
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« Reply #895 on: June 16, 2012, 04:00:37 pm »
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I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority. 
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« Reply #896 on: June 16, 2012, 04:06:18 pm »
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I'm with Nagas, but I also support a Grexit.
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« Reply #897 on: June 16, 2012, 04:09:29 pm »
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I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority.  

That won't matter as DIMAR don't want to work with SYRIZA.

The most likely outcome should SYRIZA be the largest party is yet another deadlock actually (even if the KKE finally decide to drop their wearing sectarianism).
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« Reply #898 on: June 16, 2012, 04:23:33 pm »
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The Greeks are screwed either way. I feel sorry for them, no population deserves this.
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« Reply #899 on: June 16, 2012, 04:56:59 pm »
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I hope ND/PASOK can win enough for a majority...
I hope SYRIZA/DIMAR can win enough for a majority.  

That won't matter as DIMAR don't want to work with SYRIZA.

The most likely outcome should SYRIZA be the largest party is yet another deadlock actually (even if the KKE finally decide to drop their wearing sectarianism).
Really?  I just thought they want guarantees for staying in the Eurozone.  And that Greece won't default. 
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