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« Reply #975 on: June 17, 2012, 12:22:09 pm »
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What has ANEL said about coalitions? I'm trying to work out what SYRIZA's options will be if it wins.
According to Wikipedia, ANEL says that any coalition it joins will have to be "center-right" and that it'll have to tear up the memorandum.  So basically they're saying that they won't be taking part in any government.  
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« Reply #976 on: June 17, 2012, 12:24:44 pm »
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Just reading that late-deciders chose Tsipras over Samaras 30-25 as preferred Prime Minister. Explains a lot.
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« Reply #977 on: June 17, 2012, 12:25:58 pm »
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I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
Athinon A is the city of Athens proper. Athinon B is most of her inner and middle suburbs. That's by far the largest constituency in Greece, and is further left on balance than the city proper. Piraeus A is that suburban city plus the lesser Saronic islands and Kythera and the bit of the Peloponnese that are included in Attica for reasons unknown. Piraeus B are the very working class, very lefty portside suburbs west of Piraeus, including Salamis (the most populated of the Saronic islands). Attica are the outer suburban and quasi-rural parts of Attica.
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« Reply #978 on: June 17, 2012, 12:27:34 pm »
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I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
Athinon A is the city of Athens proper. Athinon B is most of her inner and middle suburbs. That's by far the largest constituency in Greece, and is further left on balance than the city proper. Piraeus A is that suburban city plus the lesser Saronic islands and Kythera and the bit of the Peloponnese that are included in Attica for reasons unknown. Piraeus B are the very working class, very lefty portside suburbs west of Piraeus, including Salamis (the most populated of the Saronic islands). Attica are the outer suburban and quasi-rural parts of Attica.

B being V on the site, correct?
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« Reply #979 on: June 17, 2012, 12:27:54 pm »
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What has ANEL said about coalitions? I'm trying to work out what SYRIZA's options will be if it wins.

According to Wikipedia, ANEL says that any coalition it joins will have to be "center-right" and that it'll have to tear up the memorandum.  So basically they're saying that they won't be taking part in any government.  

As useless as the f'ing KKE.
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« Reply #980 on: June 17, 2012, 12:29:17 pm »
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I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
Athinon A is the city of Athens proper. Athinon B is most of her inner and middle suburbs. That's by far the largest constituency in Greece, and is further left on balance than the city proper. Piraeus A is that suburban city plus the lesser Saronic islands and Kythera and the bit of the Peloponnese that are included in Attica for reasons unknown. Piraeus B are the very working class, very lefty portside suburbs west of Piraeus, including Salamis (the most populated of the Saronic islands). Attica are the outer suburban and quasi-rural parts of Attica.

B being V on the site, correct?
Yes, of course. V being the modern (past 1800? years) pronunciation of the second letter of the Greek alphabet.
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« Reply #981 on: June 17, 2012, 12:29:35 pm »
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Why is this site showing the district results but not the national results ?
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« Reply #982 on: June 17, 2012, 12:29:41 pm »
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Quite a damning result for democracy if the anti-bailout parties (who've probably won the most votes collectively) are pipped-to-the-post because of the 50-seat bonus.
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« Reply #983 on: June 17, 2012, 12:31:40 pm »
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According to Public Issue, the minimum percentage required for forming a coalition government (151 seats) is 38.2. Exit polls put the threshold at 37.8 percent.
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« Reply #984 on: June 17, 2012, 12:32:17 pm »
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Why is this site showing the district results but not the national results ?

District results aren't finalised yet, so they're not showing any national ones.
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« Reply #985 on: June 17, 2012, 12:33:00 pm »
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Skai TV gives first seat projections from their exit polls: Syriza 28% 124 seats, ND, 27.5% 73 seats, Pasok 13% 33 seats. I
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« Reply #986 on: June 17, 2012, 12:33:09 pm »
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I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
Athinon A is the city of Athens proper. Athinon B is most of her inner and middle suburbs. That's by far the largest constituency in Greece, and is further left on balance than the city proper. Piraeus A is that suburban city plus the lesser Saronic islands and Kythera and the bit of the Peloponnese that are included in Attica for reasons unknown. Piraeus B are the very working class, very lefty portside suburbs west of Piraeus, including Salamis (the most populated of the Saronic islands). Attica are the outer suburban and quasi-rural parts of Attica.

B being V on the site, correct?
Yes, of course. V being the modern (past 1800? years) pronunciation of the second letter of the Greek alphabet.

Thanks for both of those.
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« Reply #987 on: June 17, 2012, 12:35:30 pm »
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I'm quite sure they had a national tally up by this time in the count in may.
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« Reply #988 on: June 17, 2012, 12:35:57 pm »
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I'm quite sure they had a national tally up by this time in the count in may.

Indeed. It's rather frustrating.
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« Reply #989 on: June 17, 2012, 12:37:29 pm »
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Any predictions as to who wins at this point?
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« Reply #990 on: June 17, 2012, 12:38:35 pm »
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I'm quite sure they had a national tally up by this time in the count in may.
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« Reply #991 on: June 17, 2012, 12:38:48 pm »
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Map's updated on the government's site.
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« Reply #992 on: June 17, 2012, 12:39:04 pm »
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interior ministry has national results up
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« Reply #993 on: June 17, 2012, 12:40:13 pm »
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syriza - cities  ND - farms...    thats what it looks like to me..
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« Reply #994 on: June 17, 2012, 12:41:18 pm »
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Any predictions as to who wins at this point?

Dead heat, basically.
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« Reply #995 on: June 17, 2012, 12:41:36 pm »
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Antenna TV estimates that New Democracy will win by more than 1 percentage point, Kathimerini reports.
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« Reply #996 on: June 17, 2012, 12:43:31 pm »
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PASOK actually leading somewhere! Eastern Crete.
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« Reply #997 on: June 17, 2012, 12:45:23 pm »
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The final exit poll shows ND ahead by 1-1,5%.  

Projected seats:

ND         127
SYRIZA    72
PASOK    33
ANEL       20
XA           18
DIMAR     16
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« Reply #998 on: June 17, 2012, 12:46:24 pm »
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The nonrepresented parties took quite the hit. LAOS at 1.5, a joint list of DX and Drasi and one more outfit at 1.4, Greens at 0.8, Antarsya at 0.3 (one other party that I know nothing about at 0.4).
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« Reply #999 on: June 17, 2012, 12:48:28 pm »
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PASOK actually leading somewhere! Eastern Crete.

PASOK could announce its new policy was eating babies and it would still win Crete.
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