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Topic: Greece 2012 (Read 46353 times)
TheParliamentarian
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1000 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:41:36 pm »
Antenna TV estimates that New Democracy will win by more than 1 percentage point, Kathimerini reports.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1001 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:43:31 pm »
PASOK actually leading somewhere! Eastern Crete.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1002 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:45:23 pm »
The final exit poll shows ND ahead by 1-1,5%.
Projected seats:
ND 127
SYRIZA 72
PASOK 33
ANEL 20
XA 18
DIMAR 16
KKE 14
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1003 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:46:24 pm »
The nonrepresented parties took
quite
the hit. LAOS at 1.5, a joint list of DX and Drasi and one more outfit at 1.4, Greens at 0.8, Antarsya at 0.3 (one other party that I know nothing about at 0.4).
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1004 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:48:28 pm »
Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on June 17, 2012, 12:43:31 pm
PASOK actually leading somewhere! Eastern Crete.
PASOK could announce its new policy was eating babies and it would still win Crete.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1005 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:48:49 pm »
Greek state TV estimates that on those exit numbers New Democracy and Pasok could form a coalition. The 300 seats would be distributed thus:
New Democracy 127 (including the bonus 50 for winning), Syriza 72, Pasok 32, Independent Greeks 21, Golden Dawn 19, Democratic Left 16, Communist Party of Greece 13.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1006 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:49:25 pm »
And now ND(!) is first in Eastern Crete and PASOK is third.
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June 17, 2012, 12:49:59 pm »
Quote from: 'cool,' the term 'cool,' could in some ways be deemed racial on June 17, 2012, 12:49:25 pm
And now ND(!) is first in Eastern Crete and PASOK is third.
It's a close threeway tie.
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jaichind
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Re: Greece 2012
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June 17, 2012, 12:50:50 pm »
Quote from: TheParliamentarian on June 17, 2012, 12:48:49 pm
Greek state TV estimates that on those exit numbers New Democracy and Pasok could form a coalition. The 300 seats would be distributed thus:
New Democracy 127 (including the bonus 50 for winning), Syriza 72, Pasok 32, Independent Greeks 21, Golden Dawn 19, Democratic Left 16, Communist Party of Greece 13.
I am a bit sceptical based on how last time around ND and PASOK vote share fell a lot as the couting continued. But if greek state TV takes into type of trend into account I would be glad to believe this as this is the only real result that could lead to some sort of stability.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1009 on:
June 17, 2012, 12:52:45 pm »
Looks like Greens and LAOS are losing vote share to the larger parties. Even PASOK is ahead of its vote share in May. That might change as time goes on but I am surprised.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1010 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:03:18 pm »
23% in. Doesn't look to be getting closer fast enough; I suppose ND will have won.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1011 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:04:19 pm »
Looks like Athens is slower. That is SYRIZA's last hope. They are releatively strong there, but so is ND.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1012 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:06:30 pm »
ND is ahead in Athens A (w/ almost 25% reporting nationwide).
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1013 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:08:46 pm »
XA once again strong...bleah.
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Re: Greece 2012
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June 17, 2012, 01:09:41 pm »
Quote from: ag on June 17, 2012, 01:06:30 pm
ND is ahead in Athens A (w/ almost 25% reporting nationwide).
I think you are talking about A' Athens. For V' Athens (which I assume is Athens suburbs whereas A' Athens is central city) which has a much larger voting popluation and SYRIZA is ahead. Both has about 16% of the vote in while the nation as a whole are 27% in.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1015 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:10:41 pm »
Quote from: jaichind on June 17, 2012, 01:09:41 pm
Quote from: ag on June 17, 2012, 01:06:30 pm
ND is ahead in Athens A .
I think you are talking about A' Athens.
Most definitely. Since that's exactly what I said
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TheParliamentarian
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1016 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:11:11 pm »
Marella Oppenheim tweets: Here in Athen looks like New Democracy to win. Now the country braces itself for street demos and mayhem.
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jaichind
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Re: Greece 2012
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June 17, 2012, 01:15:30 pm »
Quote from: ag on June 17, 2012, 01:10:41 pm
Quote from: jaichind on June 17, 2012, 01:09:41 pm
Quote from: ag on June 17, 2012, 01:06:30 pm
ND is ahead in Athens A .
I think you are talking about A' Athens.
Most definitely. Since that's exactly what I said
)
Ooops. You are right.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1018 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:22:23 pm »
All the american news organizations seem pretty sure that ND will win. Or at least that's what it seems like on twitter.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1019 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:26:52 pm »
New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.
PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1020 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:27:23 pm »
With 32.4% in:
ND 30.65%
SYRIZA 25.85%
PASOK 12.96%
ANEL 7.41%
SHOWER 6.93%
DIMAR 6.00%
KKE 4.42%
OTHER 5.79%
OTHER is way down from a month ago.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1021 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:31:32 pm »
Quote from: TheParliamentarian on June 17, 2012, 01:26:52 pm
New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.
PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews
Good old PASOK, pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1022 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:33:24 pm »
Quote from: Dereich on June 17, 2012, 01:31:32 pm
Quote from: TheParliamentarian on June 17, 2012, 01:26:52 pm
New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.
PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews
Good old PASOK, pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
Define "victory".
Map-based visualisation of results
here
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Re: Greece 2012
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June 17, 2012, 01:34:30 pm »
Quote from: TheParliamentarian on June 17, 2012, 01:26:52 pm
New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.
PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews
If they do that then there will be a third election where PASOK will get less than 3% of the vote. If a vote for PASOK is really a vote for SYRIZA then why not just vote for SYRIZA and skip the middleman. If one does not like SYRIZA then just vote for ND.
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Re: Greece 2012
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Reply #1024 on:
June 17, 2012, 01:35:38 pm »
Quote from: TheParliamentarian on June 17, 2012, 01:26:52 pm
New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.
PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews
If that is true, what was the point of even having an election? There will never be a national unity government. This is Weimar! They need a coalition of the sane parties.
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