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« Reply #1000 on: June 17, 2012, 12:48:49 PM »

Greek state TV estimates that on those exit numbers New Democracy and Pasok could form a coalition. The 300 seats would be distributed thus:
New Democracy 127 (including the bonus 50 for winning), Syriza 72, Pasok 32, Independent Greeks 21, Golden Dawn 19, Democratic Left 16, Communist Party of Greece 13.
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« Reply #1001 on: June 17, 2012, 12:49:25 PM »

And now ND(!) is first in Eastern Crete and PASOK is third.
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« Reply #1002 on: June 17, 2012, 12:49:59 PM »

It's a close threeway tie.
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« Reply #1003 on: June 17, 2012, 12:50:50 PM »

Greek state TV estimates that on those exit numbers New Democracy and Pasok could form a coalition. The 300 seats would be distributed thus:
New Democracy 127 (including the bonus 50 for winning), Syriza 72, Pasok 32, Independent Greeks 21, Golden Dawn 19, Democratic Left 16, Communist Party of Greece 13.

I am a bit sceptical based on how last time around ND and PASOK vote share fell a lot as the couting continued.  But if greek state TV takes into type of trend into account I would be glad to believe this as this is the only real result that could lead to some sort of stability.
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« Reply #1004 on: June 17, 2012, 12:52:45 PM »

Looks like Greens and LAOS are losing vote share to the larger parties.  Even PASOK is ahead of its vote share in May.  That might change as time goes on but I am surprised.
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« Reply #1005 on: June 17, 2012, 01:03:18 PM »

23% in. Doesn't look to be getting closer fast enough; I suppose ND will have won.
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« Reply #1006 on: June 17, 2012, 01:04:19 PM »

Looks like Athens is slower.  That is SYRIZA's last hope.  They are releatively strong there, but so is ND. 
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« Reply #1007 on: June 17, 2012, 01:06:30 PM »

ND is ahead in Athens A  (w/ almost 25% reporting nationwide).
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« Reply #1008 on: June 17, 2012, 01:08:46 PM »

XA once again strong...bleah.
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« Reply #1009 on: June 17, 2012, 01:09:41 PM »

ND is ahead in Athens A  (w/ almost 25% reporting nationwide).

I think you are talking about A' Athens.  For V' Athens (which I assume is Athens suburbs whereas A' Athens is central city) which has a much larger voting popluation and SYRIZA is ahead.  Both has about 16% of the vote in while the nation as a whole are 27% in.
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« Reply #1010 on: June 17, 2012, 01:10:41 PM »


I think you are talking about A' Athens.  

Most definitely. Since that's exactly what I said Smiley)
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« Reply #1011 on: June 17, 2012, 01:11:11 PM »

Marella Oppenheim tweets: Here in Athen looks like New Democracy to win. Now the country braces itself for street demos and mayhem.
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« Reply #1012 on: June 17, 2012, 01:15:30 PM »


I think you are talking about A' Athens.  

Most definitely. Since that's exactly what I said Smiley)

Ooops.  You are right.  Smiley
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« Reply #1013 on: June 17, 2012, 01:22:23 PM »

All the american news organizations seem pretty sure that ND will win. Or at least that's what it seems like on twitter.
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« Reply #1014 on: June 17, 2012, 01:26:52 PM »

New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.

PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews
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« Reply #1015 on: June 17, 2012, 01:27:23 PM »

With 32.4% in:

ND 30.65%
SYRIZA 25.85%
PASOK 12.96%
ANEL 7.41%
SHOWER 6.93%
DIMAR 6.00%
KKE 4.42%
OTHER 5.79%

OTHER is way down from a month ago.
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« Reply #1016 on: June 17, 2012, 01:31:32 PM »

New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.

PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews

Good old PASOK, pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.
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« Reply #1017 on: June 17, 2012, 01:33:24 PM »

New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.

PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews

Good old PASOK, pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.

Define "victory".

Map-based visualisation of results here.
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« Reply #1018 on: June 17, 2012, 01:34:30 PM »

New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.

PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews

If they do that then there will be a third election where PASOK will get less than 3% of the vote.  If a vote for PASOK is really a vote for SYRIZA then why not just vote for SYRIZA and skip the middleman.  If one does not like SYRIZA then just vote for ND.
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« Reply #1019 on: June 17, 2012, 01:35:38 PM »

New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.

PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews

If that is true, what was the point of even having an election? There will never be a national unity government. This is Weimar! They need a coalition of the sane parties.
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« Reply #1020 on: June 17, 2012, 01:36:29 PM »

New Democracy could form a coalition with Pasok, but from this tweet from Radiobubble's Spyros Gkelis suggests might not happen.

PASOK officially states that won't participate in any government without SYRIZA in it #Greece2012 #rbnews

SYRIZA-PASOK-ANEL-DIMAR only gets them to 141, so no.

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« Reply #1021 on: June 17, 2012, 01:37:12 PM »

How is joining a rightwing government not suicide for PASOK?
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« Reply #1022 on: June 17, 2012, 01:40:57 PM »

How is joining a rightwing government not suicide for PASOK?

I too would like to know this
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« Reply #1023 on: June 17, 2012, 01:41:28 PM »

They wouldn't be any worse off than they were before the election. If the logic is that they want to bring in more parties to share in unpopular decisions because they think they can't survive electorally, well they will never bring the Nazis and Communists together and god help us if those are the only two parties taking an opposition role.
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« Reply #1024 on: June 17, 2012, 01:42:21 PM »

Why doesn't PASOK just forma  coalition with SYRIZA?
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