Greece 2012

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What happens if it becomes near enough impossible to form a government?

It isn't as though Greece is a sovereign country, so it hardly matters.

BrusselsBerlin-appointed caretaker government? 

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What's the date of the election, again?

Also, does Greece plan to do anything about this ridiculous "give the winner 50 free seats" bulls**t at some point?  When the "winning" party may well get <25% of the vote?

[The Mikado]

Given that, even though they're the "system parties" they f**king hate each other on general principle, could an ND/PASOK grand coalition even function? 

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...I don't see why the coalition fails.  ND-PASOK, despite their historic animosity towards each other, have a vested interest in making the grand coalition (not so grand anymore, but take the term) work, because if they call people back to the polls, they'll just keep going down.  An ND-PASOK coalition has 153/300 seats, enough, barely, to trudge along passing unpopular austerity packages through etc.  If they call another election, PASOK will likely sink to the point that SYRIZA might become the largest party and form an anti-austerity government.

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Can someone point me to another election where no party managed to get 20%?  It just seems so bizarre to have the "winner" only have 19.5% of the vote.

Also, the idea that PASOK/ND is even possible after combining for only 33% of the vote is an absurd failure of democracy.

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The Thai 1988 election works.  Thanks, jaichind!

Anyway, it'd be difficult at this point, but it's still possible that the Greens cross the barrier, which would utterly change the dynamics and make ND/PASOK impossible in theory as well as practice.

[The Mikado]

How much further does ND have to drop before they lose another seat?

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If Samaras calls another election and the result is identical, worse, or better but still not good enough, then what? Do they just keep calling election after election until someone can form a government?

What about ND+PASOK+one of either Independent Greeks, SYRIZA, or DIMAR.

Independent Greeks and SYRIZA are both passionately anti-austerity and would never participate in an austerity government.

[The Mikado]

ND all the way down to 19.17%.

ND+PASOK=32.54%.

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ND might finish second behind "Other." 

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The guys on Something Awful argued that the ND's best hope is to encourage bribe individual members of ANEL to jump ship to ND and members of DIMAL to join PASOK.  It'd be a tough sell (who wants to climb onto a sinking ship?), but with the right kind of inducements, it doesn't seem too far out.

Also, ND at exactly 19.00%.

Other's at 18.97%.  I think it'd look so cool to see the "winner" be Other.

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Poor Greek Greens.  2.93%.

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-Syriza very eager to attempt an anti-austerity coalition, even saying he'll allow Commie Alexa to be Prime Minister, and saying he'll accept support from ANEL. Not likely to go anywhere, of course.

Serious stuff aside, a governing coalition gathering paleocommies, random far-lefties, populist right-wingers and literal nazis would be something quite epically hilarious to see.

The "everyone not in favor of austerity" coalition would be the most tragicomic government ever created.

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With 32.4% in:

ND 30.65%
SYRIZA 25.85%
PASOK 12.96%
ANEL 7.41%
SHOWER 6.93%
DIMAR 6.00%
KKE 4.42%
OTHER 5.79%

OTHER is way down from a month ago.

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37.5% in:

ND: 30.53
SYRIZA: 25.99
PASOK: 12.87
ANEL: 7.41
Golden Shower: 6.95
DIMAR: 6.01
KKE: 4.43

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40.2% in:

ND 30.45
SYRIZA 26.04
PASOK 12.85
ANEL 7.43
Nazis 6.96
DIMAR 6.04
KKE 4.39
OTHER 5.83

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What the heck?

I'm on itélé for French elections and their journalists (not the one I mentioned earlier), just said Golden Dawn would be part of the new govt.

Nah, it's just that this journalist might be very tired or something...(isn't it??)

Oh, but wouldn't it make a lot of sense to go into coalition with the Nazis?  I'm sure you could buy them off by just giving them the Interior Ministry.