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No, I wouldn't even if he vetoed it
 
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No, this would cause me to vote for the Republican candidate
 
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No, I would stay at home
 
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Yes, I would still vote for him
 
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« on: December 19, 2011, 06:31:28 PM »

For those unaware, the Stop Online Piracy Act is a bill being hurried through Congress with bipartisan support.  The bill would give accusers the ability to shut down entire websites on which "illegal" content is found.  Taken to its logical conclusion, Youtube and social media sites like Facebook and Twitter would be shut down.  In reality, this would create an environment of intense self-censorship by media giants.  You can learn more here.

So, would this affect your vote?  And if so, how?
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 06:53:56 PM »

Probably not voting for him anyway. If he signs this, that would just make me even less likely to do so.
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2011, 06:55:34 PM »

If he signs it, it may be a good reason to vote for him.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 07:02:31 PM »

I'm sure President Romney would veto this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 07:04:07 PM »

I'm sure President Romney would veto this.

Exactly. Even if Obama signs SOPA (I don't think the bill is going to pass anyway), the other choice would be even worse.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 07:09:18 PM »

I'm sure President Romney would veto this.

Exactly. Even if Obama signs SOPA (I don't think the bill is going to pass anyway), the other choice would be even worse.

Yeah, I hope people don't actually vote based on things like this. Obama signed a bill I dislike! I'll vote for the guy who'd be way worse in almost every way! I know everyone complains about voting for "the lesser of two evils" or whatever, but that's the only reasonable way to vote, I think.

Just in case someone points out that Ron Paul would veto. I know he would, I don't care. Single-issue voting is stupid, and Paul's crazy on pretty much everything else.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 07:11:31 PM »

If he signs it, it may be a good reason to vote for him.

Yes.

All the adolescent boys up in arms about this need to grow up. There is no inherent right to piracy. Anther person's intellectual property does not belong to you.

It is Youtube and Facebook's responsibility to ensure they are not hosting illegal content.
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 07:14:32 PM »

If he signs it, it may be a good reason to vote for him.

Yes.

All the adolescent boys up in arms about this need to grow up. There is no inherent right to piracy. Anther person's intellectual property does not belong to you.

It is Youtube and Facebook's responsibility to ensure they are not hosting illegal content.

Oh, yeah, this.

I don't like that my above post implied I support a veto in the first place. I was just accepting the implied premise of the thread.

Like any bill to do with intellectual property this is being overblown by panicking nerds and people who think any enforcement of the law means FASCISM COMES TO AMERICA. This isn't that big a deal.

Yelnoc, isn't it a little irresponsible to link to a site that clearly has an agenda? Wink
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 07:14:44 PM »

SOPA and the new Defense bill are enough to make someone become a libertarian.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 07:19:34 PM »

Er, let's be clear that SOPA is a terrible bill, is completely unnecessary, and has the potential to seriously damage the internet as we now know it. The idea that only adolescent nerds oppose it is just patently untrue, as nearly every major internet company has come out in opposition.

That said, Romney would also sign it, and Romney would also be worse than Obama on every issue as well. If you care about protecting the internet, not voting for Obama does not help towards that goal at all.
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 07:21:25 PM »

Er, let's be clear that SOPA is a terrible bill, is completely unnecessary, and has the potential to seriously damage the internet as we now know it. The idea that only adolescent nerds oppose it is just patently untrue, as nearly every major internet company has come out in opposition.

That said, Romney would also sign it, and Romney would also be worse than Obama on every issue as well. If you care about protecting the internet, not voting for Obama does not help towards that goal at all.

For the record, I was being somewhat facetious. I'm not quite at the level of seriously referring to Google as "panicking nerds", for example.
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 07:23:30 PM »

Romney would also be worse than Obama on every issue as well.

This is the salient point.
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 07:24:23 PM »

I am not planning to vote for him anyway, but it just gives me more reason not to.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 07:38:01 PM »

I e-mailed Casey about it; he evidently supports it but is iffy on some of the effects. I'll try Toomey and Pitts, though I'm sure they're even deeper in the RIAA's pocket.
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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 07:41:29 PM »

Option 1, even though I'll be unable to vote.
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2011, 07:44:42 PM »

No. Only Paul would veto this anyway.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2011, 08:27:15 PM »

There are bigger issues at stake, so of course I would still vote for him.   
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2011, 08:53:16 PM »

If he signs it, it may be a good reason to vote for him.

Yes.

All the adolescent boys up in arms about this need to grow up. There is no inherent right to piracy. Anther person's intellectual property does not belong to you.

It is Youtube and Facebook's responsibility to ensure they are not hosting illegal content.
Anybody know how to do the eye-roll emotican?  Because that's all this post deserves.

At Oaky, you're a big boy.  You can filter bias.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2011, 10:02:34 PM »

Any chance the pornographic industry could utilize this bill to take down like 90% of porn sites hosted in the US?
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2011, 10:14:44 PM »

Any chance the pornographic industry could utilize this bill to take down like 90% of porn sites hosted in the US?

Jared Polis offered an amendment to make SOPA not apply to porn today, but the porn industry hacks in the House defeated it.
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2011, 10:20:38 PM »

It would be a good reason to vote Green. Luckily Maria Cantwell is opposed, so I'll be able to vote for her without feeling completely terrible (WA basically banned third parties from general elections).
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2011, 10:24:09 PM »

Any chance the pornographic industry could utilize this bill to take down like 90% of porn sites hosted in the US?

Jared Polis offered an amendment to make SOPA not apply to porn today, but the porn industry hacks in the House defeated it.

Did he actually reference Avenue Q? lolololol. But seriously, this bill is antithetical to all the progress society has made over the past two decades and nobody who uses the internet as extensively as we all do should lift a finger in support of Barack Obama next year, should he sign it into law.
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2011, 10:27:52 PM »

I don't like this at all, but I'm pretty sure all the non-Paul candidates wouldn't veto this either.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2011, 10:37:15 PM »

Any chance the pornographic industry could utilize this bill to take down like 90% of porn sites hosted in the US?

Jared Polis offered an amendment to make SOPA not apply to porn today, but the porn industry hacks in the House defeated it.

Out of curiosity, who are the "porn industry hacks" in the House? Democrats from Southern California?
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2011, 10:45:04 PM »

If he signs it, it may be a good reason to vote for him.

Yes.

All the adolescent boys up in arms about this need to grow up. There is no inherent right to piracy. Anther person's intellectual property does not belong to you.

It is Youtube and Facebook's responsibility to ensure they are not hosting illegal content.
Anybody know how to do the eye-roll emotican?  Because that's all this post deserves.

At Oaky, you're a big boy.  You can filter bias.

Oh you're probably right, just thought it was worth a mention. Smiley
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