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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: December 20, 2011, 05:29:03 AM »

Yes, I've been hearing horrendous new from Hungary for a while now. Didn't imagine the situation was that disgusting though. I really fear for hungarians.

And you're 100% right about the EU. It should have been up to them to stop this authoritarian derive. But after all, they didn't do anything for Berlusconi (who fortunately couldn't go that far, but still did a lot of harm to justice and media pluralism) so it's not surprising.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,166
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 05:04:39 PM »

The problem is that MSZP have basically collapsed as an organized entity... iirc polls have them behind or level with Jobbik.

Last Election
Opinion Poll

Is it due to Fidesz' policies, or did they just kill themselves ?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,166
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 05:12:01 PM »

The problem is that MSZP have basically collapsed as an organized entity... iirc polls have them behind or level with Jobbik.

Last Election
Opinion Poll

Is it due to Fidesz' policies, or did they just kill themselves ?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,166
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 06:18:32 AM »

The problem is that MSZP have basically collapsed as an organized entity... iirc polls have them behind or level with Jobbik.

Last Election
Opinion Poll

Is it due to Fidesz' policies, or did they just kill themselves ?

Self-suicide and economic crash of 2008 (which hit Hungary very hard). Plus as Al pointed out the MSZP is a "post-communist" party and so has all the baggage that goes with that and as post-1989 East European politics has shown, ex-commie parties even reformed as the most neo-liberal social democrat, can fall pretty hard if things go wrong.

I see. I really don't know how this country will end up. It's really a nightmare.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,166
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 11:19:58 AM »

Of course, JJ, Hungary isn't 1933 Germany and Orban isn't Hitler.[/obviousness]

The Weimar comparison means what it's supposed to mean. If you don't get it, I really don't know how to help you.
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