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Insula Dei
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« on: December 20, 2011, 10:46:14 AM »

Hungary is one place where a EU-imposed technocratic government might actually be an advance. Yeah, I can't believe I just said that either, but all means are justified when it comes to getting rid of Orban and Fidesz.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 12:28:26 PM »

I have been waiting for true, effective Transitional Justice in post-communist countries for a while, but the way those Hungarian politicians seem to be trying to do it is appalling.

It's not transitional justice they seem to be after, but a way to completely outmanoeuvre the opposition. Also Orban's anti-communism borders on the ridiculous when it appearantly is a sufficient reason to throw Imre Nagy (Imre Nagy!!!!!!1111111) out of the national Pantheon.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 05:13:34 PM »

The problem is that MSZP have basically collapsed as an organized entity... iirc polls have them behind or level with Jobbik.

Last Election
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Yeah, their credibility took a huge hit for obvious reasons. And, for obvious reasons, it's harder for a postcommunist party to recover credibility than a normal social democratic party. So while they don't seem to have fallen any further, discontented voters seem to be moving towards... urgh.

You're saying that saying "We have lied morning, noon, and night" is bad for a party's credibility?  Huh

That's far from the only reason...

I note that, unnoticed to the rest of the world, the Hungarian government went to the IMF requiring assistance about a month ago.

Yeah Gully, that blog you posted is very, very interesting and well worth a read, even if it's ever so depressing.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 05:19:27 PM »


@Belgiansocialist: Have you seen post about the "art of the new constitution"... that says everything really.

Someone ought to upload that painting on the 2006 riots.
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Insula Dei
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 01:30:58 PM »

Uhm, that second link you posted makes an elaborate case for the new boundaries being extremely biased towards the right? Also, I apppearantly recall reading somewhere that under the new boundaries Fidesz could lose an election 40-52 and still walk away with a majority of seats. Sounds quite fair to me.


I can understand you wanting to score some cheap points on Krugman, just try not to do it on the back of the half of Hungarians who don't want to live in some sort of pathetic parody on a fascist banana republic. Deal?
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