Thomas Jefferson (D-VA) vs. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)
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« on: December 30, 2004, 09:33:13 PM »
What's a map look like?

Use this to make it: http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/evcalc5.php?year=2004&pop_per=1

I think George Washington would have to come back from the dead and endorse Jefferson for him to win. But since under this scenario that could very well have happened, I vote Jefferson / Jefferson.
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2004, 09:46:14 PM »


My analysis: Lincoln gets pounded with negative ads for flip-flopping on slavery. And Jefferson gets pounded with negative ads for ... not flip-flopping on slavery.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2004, 09:49:14 PM »
wasnt thomas jefferson an atheist?
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2004, 09:50:31 PM »

Self-identified Christian, identified by others as a diest/agnostic.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2004, 10:34:59 PM »
Lincoln / Lincoln
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2004, 11:02:11 PM »
Quote from: Philip on December 30, 2004, 09:46:14 PM


My analysis: Lincoln gets pounded with negative ads for flip-flopping on slavery. And Jefferson gets pounded with negative ads for ... not flip-flopping on slavery.

Isn't that the 2000 election map with colors reversed?

Lincoln/Lincoln
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2004, 11:02:41 PM »
Quote from: Governor Wildcard on December 30, 2004, 11:02:11 PM
Quote from: Philip on December 30, 2004, 09:46:14 PM


My analysis: Lincoln gets pounded with negative ads for flip-flopping on slavery. And Jefferson gets pounded with negative ads for ... not flip-flopping on slavery.

Isn't that the 2000 election map with colors reversed?

Except for differences in the shades.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2004, 04:40:55 AM »
I'd vote for Jefferson but I'm not sure who'd win. I think Jefferson woud in the end, becuase Lincoln has much more people hating him than Jefferson.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2004, 05:37:30 AM »
lincoln/lincoln
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2004, 05:46:45 AM »
I kinda like Jefferson but I doubt I'd vote for him. Besides he wouldn't run in todays political conditions.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2004, 01:41:34 PM »
I'd vote for Jefferson. I'm not sure who would win.

Lincoln might get the black vote, because he's 'the great emancipator' and Jefferson had the whole slave owning issue. Hard to say.

Jefferson would get the NRA endorsement. So the pro-gun crowd would go for him. The anti-gun crowd would take Lincoln unless he took a pro-gun stance too.

Then there's the whole fame thing - each of them has big name recognition, but who in history is looked upon more favorably? Lincoln might have some of his Civil War actions brought up in ads, so that could be a detriment to him, but he is still very well loved.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2004, 06:05:23 PM »
I just voted (Jefferson / Jefferson) and its tied at 10 - 10. No one yet has voted for J / L or L / J.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2004, 06:09:32 PM »
I'd vote Lincoln, but Jefferson would win.
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2004, 07:35:45 PM »
Lincoln wouldn't get the black vote as long as he had an R next to his name.

Quote from: S.E. Magistrate John Dibble on December 31, 2004, 01:41:34 PM
I'd vote for Jefferson. I'm not sure who would win.

Lincoln might get the black vote, because he's 'the great emancipator' and Jefferson had the whole slave owning issue. Hard to say.

Jefferson would get the NRA endorsement. So the pro-gun crowd would go for him. The anti-gun crowd would take Lincoln unless he took a pro-gun stance too.

Then there's the whole fame thing - each of them has big name recognition, but who in history is looked upon more favorably? Lincoln might have some of his Civil War actions brought up in ads, so that could be a detriment to him, but he is still very well loved.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2004, 07:45:31 PM »
Anybody but the tyrant!
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2004, 09:29:09 PM »
Lincoln/Lincoln

African-American turnout would be sky high.  Also, nearly every person who believses slavery should be illegal would vote for him.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2004, 10:58:57 PM »
Anyone who believes Lincoln was a tyrant towards the South should read this quote of his: "There is too much disposition, in certain quarters, to hector and dictate to the people of the South, to refuse to recognize them as fellow-citizens. Such persons have too little respect for Southernors' rights. I do not share feelings of that kind".
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2005, 05:10:52 AM »
Quote from: Bob on December 31, 2004, 10:58:57 PM
Anyone who believes Lincoln was a tyrant towards the South should read this quote of his: "There is too much disposition, in certain quarters, to hector and dictate to the people of the South, to refuse to recognize them as fellow-citizens. Such persons have too little respect for Southernors' rights. I do not share feelings of that kind".

I don't care hat he said. I care what he did.
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2005, 06:15:28 PM »
Lincoln/Lincoln.

He wouldn't take no guff from the terrorists. :-P
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2005, 08:01:12 PM »


Jefferson/Jefferson.
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2005, 08:26:46 PM »
Lincoln would probably win Indiana.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2005, 06:07:04 PM »
Quote from: htmldon on December 31, 2004, 07:35:45 PM
Lincoln wouldn't get the black vote as long as he had an R next to his name.


What makes you say that?
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2005, 06:51:28 PM »

Well I figure Indiana has farmers and fairly lax gun laws, which would favor Jefferson.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2005, 06:59:32 PM »
Lincoln, I'd get photos of Jefferson and Sally Hemmings.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2005, 07:05:45 PM »
Quote from: J. J. on January 02, 2005, 06:59:32 PM
Lincoln, I'd get photos of Jefferson and Sally Hemmings.

Being as that affair was created to stain Jefferson and probably never happened then it would be doubtful you could get anything.
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