Why would Egypt declare war on Israel?
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« on: December 21, 2011, 12:20:33 PM »

There is some concern that Egypt's new democratic government (if it takes shape as such) will declare war on Israel.

It would be suicidal.

Of course, Egyptians hate Israel, with much reason.

Yet Israel and Egypt are neighbors, and Israel's military is far superior to Egypt's.  Egypt knows good and well that the United States would ally with Israel in any such Egypt/Israel war.

So while they may hate their neighbor, I highly doubt that they would invite their own destruction by starting some sh**t with an increasingly paranoid Israel.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 12:25:44 PM »

You almost seem to be saying that Egypt should attack Israel if you/they thought they could win.  I mean, as you repeatedly stated, they hate them and have much reason for that hate.  Think about that for a second.  Now, any guesses as to why Israel might becoming more paranoid?
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 12:36:17 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2011, 12:41:14 PM by SmugDealer »

You almost seem to be saying that Egypt should attack Israel if you/they thought they could win.  I mean, as you repeatedly stated, they hate them and have much reason for that hate.  Think about that for a second.  Now, any guesses as to why Israel might becoming more paranoid?

No, they shouldn't.

It is understandable why Egyptians hate Israel. But it would be an awful idea to attack Israel, and would lead to unimaginable suffering in Egypt and would accomplish nothing.

Neighbors must learn to live together, especially when 1 can easily wipe out the other. Any leaders of Egypt will see this, act rationally, and not attack Israel.

Certainly you understand you might want to do something yet never do it, because it's a bad idea.

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 01:35:03 PM »

Of course, Egyptians hate Israel, with much reason.

Why?
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 01:38:19 PM »

Well, Israel crushed them three times in30 years, and occupied the Sinai. That and the Muslim Brotherhoods growing influence.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 01:47:35 PM »

Well, Israel crushed them three times in30 years, and occupied the Sinai. That and the Muslim Brotherhoods growing influence.

Except for the inglorious Suez-Adventure of 1956 in which, sadly, Israel took part, they were only "crushed" because their incapable military leaders tried to destroy  the Jewish state.

For "good reason" the Egyptians should hate their military oligarchs who slaughtered young Egypt men for bullsh!t reasons against a stronger enemy.

Why hate Israel? Would any Egyptian be better off if Israel was destroyed?
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 02:10:13 PM »

Well, Israel crushed them three times in30 years, and occupied the Sinai. That and the Muslim Brotherhoods growing influence.

Except for the inglorious Suez-Adventure of 1956 in which, sadly, Israel took part, they were only "crushed" because their incapable military leaders tried to destroy the Jewish state.

For "good reason" the Egyptians should hate their military oligarchs who slaughtered young Egypt men for bullsh!t reasons against a stronger enemy.

Why hate Israel? Would any Egyptian be better off if Israel was destroyed?
If I were Egyptian, I would hate Israel. If I was North Korean, I would hate South Korea. Its a natural rivalry. Personally, I think everyone would be better off if we ignored both Egypt and Israel, and let them contend with eachother. Both countries leadership do nothing but start trouble.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 04:15:08 PM »

To say that Israel was 'unfortunately involved' in the Suez Crisis is a bit of an hilarious understatement.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 04:33:07 PM »

Well, Israel crushed them three times in30 years, and occupied the Sinai. That and the Muslim Brotherhoods growing influence.

Still no reason.  Egpyt has controlled all its "original" territory for years.  They own the Sinai (for what it's worth) not Israel.  That's like saying we should hate Japan.

I personally don't care who won WWII as far as us and Japan.  We each control our own home lands.  They didn't lose any significant terriroty to us and we didn't lose any to them.  We are both doing fine.  Well Japan has some issues but that isn't because of us.  Who thinks in this terms?
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2011, 02:53:58 PM »

Well, Israel crushed them three times in30 years, and occupied the Sinai. That and the Muslim Brotherhoods growing influence.

Still no reason.  Egpyt has controlled all its "original" territory for years.  They own the Sinai (for what it's worth) not Israel.  That's like saying we should hate Japan.

I personally don't care who won WWII as far as us and Japan.  We each control our own home lands.  They didn't lose any significant terriroty to us and we didn't lose any to them.  We are both doing fine.  Well Japan has some issues but that isn't because of us.  Who thinks in this terms?

Most people around the world think 'in this terms'. So, almost certainly, do you.

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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 05:15:13 AM »

Well, Israel crushed them three times in30 years, and occupied the Sinai. That and the Muslim Brotherhoods growing influence.

Still no reason.  Egpyt has controlled all its "original" territory for years.  They own the Sinai (for what it's worth) not Israel.  That's like saying we should hate Japan.

I personally don't care who won WWII as far as us and Japan.  We each control our own home lands.  They didn't lose any significant terriroty to us and we didn't lose any to them.  We are both doing fine.  Well Japan has some issues but that isn't because of us.  Who thinks in this terms?

I certainly don't - just ask the people of Korea if they'd prefer being under Japanese occupation.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 11:43:44 AM »

May be better than the Kim's.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2011, 01:19:21 PM »


The Kims rule only over about a third of the Korean population. Are you willing to let two-thirds of Koreans suffer so that one-third may have better lifes?
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 01:24:45 PM »

No, of course not.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 01:54:36 PM »


There's only so many accounts I can read of shuddering 1930s Japanese schoolboys refusing to dissect a frog, only to be slapped by a teacher saying, "When you grow up you'll have to kill a hundred Chinks and you can't even kill a frog!"
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