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« on: December 27, 2011, 01:29:06 pm »
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Breaking news.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 01:33:58 pm »
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Likely R --> Safe R.  I doubt Kerrey's running again- though if he did either a) Bruning would have to become more disciplined or b) Heinemann would have to jump in.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 02:34:41 pm »
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Good. The DSCC can spend that money in more winnable contests.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 02:45:57 pm »
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He was dead man walking.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 02:46:07 pm »
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R+1.

Good thing too. I'd rather spend money on Brown, Baldwin, Warren, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 02:59:34 pm »
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Good. The DSCC can spend that money in more winnable contests.
Ben Nelson is a Democrat?
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 03:00:39 pm »
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Great. There was still a tiny lingering doubt about this seat. I greatly prefer guaranteed pick ups even though this means the DSCC can devote more to other states but that also frees up cash for the NRSC.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2011, 03:11:33 pm »
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Great. There was still a tiny lingering doubt about this seat. I greatly prefer guaranteed pick ups even though this means the DSCC can devote more to other states but that also frees up cash for the NRSC.

Not quite. You guys still have to deal with a primary, which takes money from other races (though the NRSC won't have to spend)
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 03:28:39 pm »
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Stop trolling, Ben Nelson
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 03:54:03 pm »
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Great. There was still a tiny lingering doubt about this seat. I greatly prefer guaranteed pick ups even though this means the DSCC can devote more to other states but that also frees up cash for the NRSC.

Not quite. You guys still have to deal with a primary, which takes money from other races (though the NRSC won't have to spend)

I don't see a reason why they'd have to spend money there now.
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2011, 05:17:47 pm »
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Hard to see the Dems holding this seat with or without Nelson.  Has Kerrey made any comments on his willingness to run again? He's the only hope for the Dems now. On the GOP side, Bruning used to be a liberal. Maybe the shadowy organizations that get to spend all the money they want could attack him as a flip-flopper or whatever. Probably more effective to worry with more competitve states like MO and MA.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2011, 05:35:18 pm »
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Good -he won't be missed.  I am done with DINOs like him. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2011, 06:35:54 pm »
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I think Bob Kerrey will decide against running.

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2011, 08:03:30 pm »
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These Senate Democrats are dropping like flies. Who's next? The other Nelson perhaps?
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2011, 08:05:39 pm »
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These Senate Democrats are dropping like flies. Who's next? The other Nelson perhaps?

Not likely.  He'll win pretty handily.  Not a landslide, but it'll be comfortable.
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2011, 08:40:38 pm »
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So now the title of "most endangered Senate Democrat" shifts to either Tester or McCaskill. Though unlike Nelson, that title has little to do with their voting records.
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 09:15:23 pm »
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I think Bob Kerrey will decide against running.

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Bob Kerrey wouldn't get elected a dogcatcher now in Nebraska. He had his chance to remain in the Senate for at least two terms (he'd be certainly reelected in both 2000 and 2006), but now he's just another New Yorker, at least to Mr. Average Nebraskan.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 10:03:43 pm »
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Good riddance. He was a total DINO. And before anyone claims that he's the best Senator possible from Nebraska, his predecessor was more liberal, and was one of only 13 nay votes on DOMA.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 10:22:21 pm »
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Well, that frees up money for other states that need it.

And to those attacking Nelson, don't whine about his successor or if the Republicans take the Senate, you gave up your right to whine by being purists.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2011, 01:25:57 am »
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Well, that frees up money for other states that need it.

And to those attacking Nelson, don't whine about his successor or if the Republicans take the Senate, you gave up your right to whine by being purists.

I don't think people have a problem with Nelson's conservatism per se (you don't see them grumbling about Pryor or Landrieu) but rather his eagerness to screw his party at every chance he got. And his retirement is another one of them.
If he really cared about the Democrats retaining the Senate then the least he could do would be to dissuade them from spending 1 million dollars in ads propping him up while he was considering retirement.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2011, 03:05:53 am »
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He was dead man walking.

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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2011, 08:56:15 am »
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Whether he was running again or not, his seat is lost. It's better to just give it up than wasting money needed in other races.

I didn't like Nelson, but I agree with DrScholl he was still better than and Republican to replace him (which says a lot about Democratic Party in Nebraska, sadly).
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2011, 09:42:00 am »
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I think Scott Kleeb could make this interesting... in 2006, he lost by 10 points in the most conservative district in Nebraska (which I think is R+24 or something like that)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2011, 09:49:13 am »
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I think Scott Kleeb could make this interesting... in 2006, he lost by 10 points in the most conservative district in Nebraska (which I think is R+24 or something like that)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2006 was a Democratic year and, due to this, he just outperformed. Good luck winning statewide in Nebraska in a presidential election year. We can't predict final results now, but even if Obama is reelected in a nationwide landslide, he won't have coattails in Nebraska. It's just hoping for Obama coattails in Utah.

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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2011, 09:58:36 am »
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I think Scott Kleeb could make this interesting... in 2006, he lost by 10 points in the most conservative district in Nebraska (which I think is R+24 or something like that)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

Quit grasping at straws. The seat is lost. Move on.
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