Election Night 2012: Obama/Biden vs. Santorum/Rubio
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Grumpier Than Thou
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« on: January 01, 2012, 02:05:08 AM »

Prologue:

President Obama retains Vice President Biden as his running mate.

In a race that came down to the wire, Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum won the GOP Nomination, narrowly defeating Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. He chose Florida Senator Marco Rubio to be his Veep.

First National Polls (9/4/12:)

FOX News:

Obama...............43%
Santorum...........45%
Undecided.........12%

CNN:

Obama..............51%
Santorum..........40%
Undecided...........9%

MSNBC:

Obama..............52%
Santorum..........38%
Undecided.........10%

PPP:

Obama..............49%
Santorum..........40%
Undecided.........11%

First polls from Candidate's home states:

Illinois (PPP:)

Obama..........60%
Santorum......32%
Undecided.......8%

Delaware (PPP:)

Obama...........53%
Santorum.......38%
Undecided........9%

Pennsylvania (PPP:)

Obama...........48%
Santorum.......46%
Undecided........6%

Florida (PPP:)

Obama..........43%
Santorum......49%
Undecided.......8%

Rasmussen Reports Predictions (9/7/12:)

PA: Tossup
FL: Lean R
IL: Safe D
DE: Lean D
NJ: Lean D
NH: Tossup
MO: Safe R
NV: Lean D




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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 04:19:20 AM »

Interesting.  I like it! Wink
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 04:38:19 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 10:51:57 AM »

Three Catholics on two tickets!? (don't know how to do the surprised emoticon)
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 11:02:33 AM »

: + o = Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2012, 11:22:41 AM »

If Obama has a 9-point lead in PPP's national poll, how on earth is he trailing by 6 in FL and only tied in PA?? I know Rubio's from Florida and Santorum from Pennsylvania, but it's hard to believe the favourite son effect would be THAT big

Anyways, continue!! ^^
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2012, 01:24:33 PM »

FOX News may be a conservative station, but their polls aren't that favorable to Republicans. With Obama leading the others by around 10 points, he'd be leading comfortably in every traditional swing state. The new swing states would be Georgia, Montana, Arizona, and the Dakota's based on those numbers.

Continue please! Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2012, 04:47:20 PM »

GOP Presidential Candidate Rick Santorum appears on "Meet The Press"



David Gregory: You've been grilled by Democrats and Independents alike for your so-called "Un-American" views on issues such as gay rights, abortion and the like. How do plan to win over Independents and disgruntled Democrats?

Rick Santorum: David, I don't want to focus my campaign on social issues. Of course social issues are important to some Americans, but our economy is in shambles and I want to run a campaign based on how I plan to fix the economy. That's something that Independents, Democrats and I can all agree on: President Obama must stop the frivolous spending if we are to prosper as a nation.

Gregory: You have also been criticized for your involvement in the creation of Medicare Part D, what do you say to people who criticize you about that?

Santorum: Medicare Part D made prescription drugs more affordable for America's senior citizens and so I will defend my involvement in the creation of it, because it was necessary for America at the time and it still is.

Gregory: What is your opinion of "Obamacare"?

Santorum: It needs to be repealed and replaced with a plan that will benefit Americans as well as the economy. Obamacare has killed jobs and will continue to kill jobs unless we repeal it and replace it with a more sensible law.

Gregory: You were criticized on the campaign trail for taking plenty of earmarks for your own state, what would you like to say regarding those criticisms?

Santorum: Well my biggest opponent on this issue was Governor Rick Perry, who has given millions of dollars to lobbyists and other Washington-based crooks. Look, was I a perfect Senator? Of course not. I made some mistakes. But I am the most morally pristine candidate in this race and I will stand by that proclamation.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2012, 04:51:58 PM »

MSNBC Online Poll following "Meet The Press":

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Rick Santorum?

Favorable............45%
Unfavorable.........45%
Unsure.................10%

If the 2012 Presidential Race were held today, who would you vote for?

Barack Obama (D)...............48%
Rick Santorum (R)................40%
Other.....................................4%
Unsure...................................8%

Tweet from PPP:

"Recent polling shows Santorum gaining in WI, OH and NV. Still not fairing well nationally #Santorum #GOP"
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2012, 05:25:10 PM »

I still can't understand this.. So, Santorum is trailing by 9 (nationally), yet leads Obama in Nevada,  a state which Obama carried by 13 points in 2008 (not to talk about Wisconsin, which he carried by 14)
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 05:31:32 PM »

Is the "other" 4% for Johnson?
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 05:35:41 PM »

How about some poll numbers in West Virginia, Arkansas, Arizona, and Colorado?
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 07:12:52 PM »

I still can't understand this.. So, Santorum is trailing by 9 (nationally), yet leads Obama in Nevada,  a state which Obama carried by 13 points in 2008 (not to talk about Wisconsin, which he carried by 14)

Tweet from PPP:

"Recent polling shows Santorum gaining in WI, OH and NV. Still not fairing well nationally #Santorum #GOP"

Gaining, not leading.
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 07:55:35 PM »

PPP Releases Poll Numbers from Arizona, West Virginia, Arkansas and Colorado.

Arizona:

Obama.............50%
Santorum.........42%
Unsure.............,,8%

West Virginia:

Obama.............39%
Santorum.........52%
Unsure...............9%

Arkansas:

Obama.............44%
Santorum.........48%
Unsure...............8%

Colorado:

Obama.............51%
Santorum.........39%
Unsure.............10%

EV Map (so far, according to PPP:)



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