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« Reply #350 on: January 03, 2012, 10:25:07 pm »
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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....
Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

He always has been. Bring up his name with Republican voters and they will share disgust of him. Romney isn't hated, he just isn't enthusing people, and they are still looking to see if there are other choices. You could make the argument that McCain clinging the nomination so early on was a mistake for Republicans who didn't realize how bad he was as a Conservative and as a candidate.
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« Reply #351 on: January 03, 2012, 10:25:30 pm »
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I can't believe what we're seeing out of Marion and Jasper. Can somebody more familiar with Iowa than I am explain what it is about those counties relative to the rest of the south-and-east-of-Des Moines part of the state?

Jasper County's largest city is Newton, which used to have a big Maytag plant that employed a good percentage of its residents.  That plant closed fairly recently, devastating the city.  That probably doesn't explain the huge Santorum vote, though.
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« Reply #352 on: January 03, 2012, 10:25:44 pm »
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« Reply #353 on: January 03, 2012, 10:26:05 pm »
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So are the caucuses over and they're waiting on results or are areas still caucusing?
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« Reply #354 on: January 03, 2012, 10:26:28 pm »
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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....
Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

your not part of the base. the base is embarassed with you. If you were standing you'd be 6% like bachmann.
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« Reply #355 on: January 03, 2012, 10:27:03 pm »
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I can't believe what we're seeing out of Marion and Jasper. Can somebody more familiar with Iowa than I am explain what it is about those counties relative to the rest of the south-and-east-of-Des Moines part of the state?

Seriously. Not only why is Santorum doing so well, but also Romney doing particularly poor there?

I assume both have plenty Evangelicals. Huckabee won them by about 50% in 2008.
The last exit polls showed Santorum leading among Evangelicals by a considerable margin, so I imagine your supposition is correct.
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« Reply #356 on: January 03, 2012, 10:27:41 pm »
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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....
Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

He always has been. Bring up his name with Republican voters and they will share disgust of him. Romney isn't hated, he just isn't enthusing people, and they are still looking to see if there are other choices. You could make the argument that McCain clinging the nomination so early on was a mistake for Republicans who didn't realize how bad he was as a Conservative and as a candidate.

Huh. I tend not to take the word of somebody who capitalizes 'conservative' as if it were the name of a religion at face value, particularly relative to the visceral disgust for Mitt Romney that I've seen in large amounts from the right even if you haven't.
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« Reply #357 on: January 03, 2012, 10:28:09 pm »
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Ron Paul must win!  ;(
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« Reply #358 on: January 03, 2012, 10:28:36 pm »
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If there's a change from 24-24-22, please update.
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« Reply #359 on: January 03, 2012, 10:29:08 pm »
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So are the caucuses over and they're waiting on results or are areas still caucusing?

It sounds like they are done caucusing and now tabulating and reporting to Des Moines.
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« Reply #360 on: January 03, 2012, 10:29:21 pm »
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I suspect Rick will finish first. I suspected Dallas County would be Romney country (it is about the only more wealthy suburban tinged county in the state), and it is, and it is almost all in. Rick is running well in Des Moines with more down market Pubs.  He running really strong in Catholic areas. Who gets second and third places is more difficult to guess.
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« Reply #361 on: January 03, 2012, 10:29:31 pm »
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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....
Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

He always has been. Bring up his name with Republican voters and they will share disgust of him. Romney isn't hated, he just isn't enthusing people, and they are still looking to see if there are other choices. You could make the argument that McCain clinging the nomination so early on was a mistake for Republicans who didn't realize how bad he was as a Conservative and as a candidate.

Huh. I tend not to take the word of somebody who capitalizes 'conservative' as if it were the name of a religion at face value, particularly relative to the visceral disgust for Mitt Romney that I've seen in large amounts from the right even if you haven't.

Sorry I was reading an article on the Tories just now and made a mistake. I'm not sanctifying the word. Tongue
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« Reply #362 on: January 03, 2012, 10:30:01 pm »
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Democrats were pretty much done counting by now last time. Republicans are slow and incompetent.
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« Reply #363 on: January 03, 2012, 10:30:39 pm »
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If there's any big change from current polling, please update.
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« Reply #364 on: January 03, 2012, 10:30:42 pm »
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Although Ron Paul has fallen slightly behind Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney in the vote-counting, he still has a chance of winning - in part because some of his strongest areas, college towns, have been slow to report results.

Story County, where Iowa State University is located, has had none of its 43 precincts report. And only 22 of 57 precincts have reported in Johnson County, home to the University of Iowa. (Mr. Paul has 36 percent of the votes there so far.)

- Nate Silver
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« Reply #365 on: January 03, 2012, 10:31:15 pm »
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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....
Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

He always has been. Bring up his name with Republican voters and they will share disgust of him. Romney isn't hated, he just isn't enthusing people, and they are still looking to see if there are other choices. You could make the argument that McCain clinging the nomination so early on was a mistake for Republicans who didn't realize how bad he was as a Conservative and as a candidate.

Huh. I tend not to take the word of somebody who capitalizes 'conservative' as if it were the name of a religion at face value, particularly relative to the visceral disgust for Mitt Romney that I've seen in large amounts from the right even if you haven't.

Sorry I was reading an article on the Tories just now and made a mistake. I'm not sanctifying the word. Tongue

Okay, makes sense. I still don't agree with your point but you haven't committed one of my pet peeves so I'm happy. Wink
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« Reply #366 on: January 03, 2012, 10:32:10 pm »
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Dubuque still has a lot to report, and Woodbury isn't even reporting. Things certainly aren't even close to being over for Romney. Very happy with how tonight is going.

Woodbury County will go to Santorum
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« Reply #367 on: January 03, 2012, 10:32:18 pm »
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The strangest part of these results so far has been Santorum's weakness in the southern, rural counties that loved Edwards and Huckabee in 2008. It's a mystery as to how Gingrich and Paul are doing so well there.
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« Reply #368 on: January 03, 2012, 10:32:39 pm »
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Romeny really needs to extend his lead in Dubuque, Clinton and Scott counties.  He is considerably lower there and Santorum in doing better there than Huckabee was.  Can't see how Romney pulls this out.
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« Reply #369 on: January 03, 2012, 10:32:43 pm »
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Perry and Paul tied in Union county.
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« Reply #370 on: January 03, 2012, 10:32:55 pm »
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Dubuque still has a lot to report, and Woodbury isn't even reporting. Things certainly aren't even close to being over for Romney. Very happy with how tonight is going.

Woodbury County will go to Santorum

Romney won it in '08.
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« Reply #371 on: January 03, 2012, 10:33:09 pm »
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Although Ron Paul has fallen slightly behind Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney in the vote-counting, he still has a chance of winning - in part because some of his strongest areas, college towns, have been slow to report results.

Story County, where Iowa State University is located, has had none of its 43 precincts report. And only 22 of 57 precincts have reported in Johnson County, home to the University of Iowa. (Mr. Paul has 36 percent of the votes there so far.)

- Nate Silver
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« Reply #372 on: January 03, 2012, 10:33:40 pm »
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Oh, Mitt got 33% in Catholic Dubuque. Rick got 26%. So Mitt is running strong in Catholic areas too.
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« Reply #373 on: January 03, 2012, 10:33:50 pm »
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The Republicans have to go dump some Paul votes into the Mississippi before they announce the other 50% of the precincts.
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« Reply #374 on: January 03, 2012, 10:34:20 pm »
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Oh, Mitt got 33% in Catholic Dubuque. Rick got 26%. So Mitt is running strong in Catholic areas too.

Mitt is actually severely underperforming in Catholic areas compared to 2008.
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