Official Iowa Caucus Results Thread

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Watching on MSNBC. 'Rally to a Romney alternative' sounds like a dodgy European political party.

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I can't believe what we're seeing out of Marion and Jasper. Can somebody more familiar with Iowa than I am explain what it is about those counties relative to the rest of the south-and-east-of-Des Moines part of the state?

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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....

Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....

Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....

Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

He always has been. Bring up his name with Republican voters and they will share disgust of him. Romney isn't hated, he just isn't enthusing people, and they are still looking to see if there are other choices. You could make the argument that McCain clinging the nomination so early on was a mistake for Republicans who didn't realize how bad he was as a Conservative and as a candidate.

Huh. I tend not to take the word of somebody who capitalizes 'conservative' as if it were the name of a religion at face value, particularly relative to the visceral disgust for Mitt Romney that I've seen in large amounts from the right even if you haven't.

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Talk on Fox is that Santorum can use Top 3 Iowa performance to win the nom.....

Santorum isn't even as strong as Huckabee was 4 years ago, and look how Huckabee turned out.

People who hate Romney hate him more than anybody hated McCain.

That's where you're wrong. No Republican is more hated than John McCain by the base.

As of when?

He always has been. Bring up his name with Republican voters and they will share disgust of him. Romney isn't hated, he just isn't enthusing people, and they are still looking to see if there are other choices. You could make the argument that McCain clinging the nomination so early on was a mistake for Republicans who didn't realize how bad he was as a Conservative and as a candidate.

Huh. I tend not to take the word of somebody who capitalizes 'conservative' as if it were the name of a religion at face value, particularly relative to the visceral disgust for Mitt Romney that I've seen in large amounts from the right even if you haven't.

Sorry I was reading an article on the Tories just now and made a mistake. I'm not sanctifying the word.

Okay, makes sense. I still don't agree with your point but you haven't committed one of my pet peeves so I'm happy.

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Santorum is winning Woodbury.

Now it gets real.

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'Bad people, trying to kill us.'

Newt is, uh, sure...something.

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Newt thinks he's the new millennium's Oswald Spengler, but he's actually a poor man's Eddie Antar.

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Did somebody sitting with Rachel Maddow just stifle a laugh when she said 'Michele Bachmann's campaign headquarters'?

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There's something very wrong with you, Bachmann.

Please. Listen to us. We only want to help you.

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Rick Perry is cute, isn't he?

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Rick Santorum speaks a language that I understand and respond to, not only more than Romney does but more than Obama does in some ways. Even so, that's just enough for me to recoil from some of the specific positions and beliefs that he's espoused over the years and espouses now.

I'm still glad of his showing, though; he deserved this for his commitment to Iowa and for being a far, far better man than Newt.

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Romney is an engaging and more likable than average sleazy car dealer (still not as engaging or likable as Crazy Vaclav), but he's still a sleazy car dealer.

Santorum is, to an extent, a 'friend' of the old and the poor and all that, but he's not a competent one, and there are other people and things that he's a friend of more.

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And thank you again for that speech, which helped remind me what a self-righteous theocrat with his own personal pipeline from God to the platform-writing committee you are and always have been.

God forbid someone be genuinely religious.    That means they think they have a "pipeline" to God.

Yes, Phil, someday after I've served a couple more years as deacon in my church, I'll hopefully get over this aversion to the "genuinely religious".

Well then you, of all people, shouldn't be holier-than-thou and bash Santorum's religious nature.

On the contrary, people who understand important parts of Santorum's (or anybody's, for that matter) thought processes are eminently qualified to explain the flaws in how those thought processes transfer into specific policies and positions.

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CNN has Santorum by 4.

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This is a pathetic indictment of the Republican Party in general. Not who did or didn't win, but that these are the people we're discussing.

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This is a pathetic indictment of the Republican Party in general. Not who did or didn't win, but that these are the people we're discussing.

Who should we be discussing, Ron Paul?

None of these. The pathetic indictment is the field.

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Stop bloviating, Strawn.

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Romney by 8 votes. Final. For now.

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MSNBC has Romney and Santorum both with 11 delegates and Paul with 3, however the Hell they count that.

Damn it. Romney can't win every state. That's boring beyond all reason.