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« Reply #800 on: November 06, 2012, 08:07:22 AM »

Yes, consecutive elections are very unpopular, and the Opposition's supporters probably wouldn't reward them for forcing another one so soon.
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« Reply #801 on: November 08, 2012, 09:09:06 AM »

Penashue still under fire. Does this end with Xmas recess?

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/penashue-under-fire-on-two-fronts-illegal-campaign-financing-not-doing-his-job-177751711.html
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« Reply #802 on: November 08, 2012, 12:55:07 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2012, 01:21:50 PM by RogueBeaver »

Double boom: Vaillancourt resigns.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regional/201211/08/01-4591756-gilles-vaillancourt-demissionnerait-demain.php?

Pupatello: Legislature's not coming back till I do.

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/former-minister-sandra-pupatello-launches-liberal-leadership-bid-1.1029628
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« Reply #803 on: November 10, 2012, 10:33:37 AM »

Good riddance. Wildrose is where most Alberta Tories align anyways.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/Braid%2BWildrose%2Bdalliance%2Bexclude%2Bfederal%2BTories%2Bfrom/7528239/story.html

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/all-is-not-well-in-the-state-of-alison-redford/article5165619/?cmpid=rss1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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« Reply #804 on: November 10, 2012, 04:43:34 PM »

Whateva.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Provincial+party+draws+line+with+federal+Conservatives/7530818/story.html

Someone will blink, perhaps the leaderless Grits.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/quebec-premier-pauline-marois-launches-appeal-to-opposition-over-upcoming-budget-178430701.html
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« Reply #805 on: November 11, 2012, 02:06:18 PM »

Marois will be introducing the new Loi 101 before Xmas break. The opposition parties are nominally opposed but I think they'll strike a deal if pushed hard enough. Legault was a language mega-hawk until he left the PQ and Couillard has already signalled that he wants the PLQ to start competing with the PQ on ID/language.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201211/10/01-4592453-depot-imminent-dune-nouvelle-loi-101.php
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« Reply #806 on: November 11, 2012, 02:33:44 PM »

Marois will be introducing the new Loi 101 before Xmas break. The opposition parties are nominally opposed but I think they'll strike a deal if pushed hard enough. Legault was a language mega-hawk until he left the PQ and Couillard has already signalled that he wants the PLQ to start competing with the PQ on ID/language.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-quebecoise/201211/10/01-4592453-depot-imminent-dune-nouvelle-loi-101.php

So where do the Anglos go if the Liberals are just as bad as the PQ?
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« Reply #807 on: November 11, 2012, 02:59:44 PM »

They're stuck with them. Even the very anti-Peq ones. Personally I don't think the PLQ can remotely compete in a bidding war on language/ID issues but Couillard wants to try. Like the original one, it'll be an omnibus containing both commercial and educational provisions. CEGEP-101 will probably be a major component.
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« Reply #808 on: November 11, 2012, 03:48:33 PM »

One has to wonder what the Liberals are thinking by trying to go toe to toe with the PQ on language. There is no way they are going to win the votes of hardcore French nationalists. This will alienate their best supporters and risk another Equality Part. showing up.
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« Reply #809 on: November 11, 2012, 05:31:42 PM »

i tink the liberals are a dume party tat is full of stupid n coon socialists & i would vote for christian hertigy or the nazi party n some hardcore conservatives
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« Reply #810 on: November 11, 2012, 11:27:05 PM »

i tink the liberals are a dume party tat is full of stupid n coon socialists & i would vote for christian hertigy or the nazi party n some hardcore conservatives

CHP wouldn't have you.
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« Reply #811 on: November 12, 2012, 12:06:49 AM »

One has to wonder what the Liberals are thinking by trying to go toe to toe with the PQ on language. There is no way they are going to win the votes of hardcore French nationalists. This will alienate their best supporters and risk another Equality Part. showing up.

Equality Party was a disaster which only marginalized Anglos. It looked to the average French voters than the Anglos were unable to accept than they were a minority and weren't ruling Québec as before the 60's. I'm quite sure than a rerun wouldn't work.

Liberals are making a wonderful work of making Anglos voting for them by scaring them with the risk of independantists having the most seats in Assembly if they don't vote Liberal.
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« Reply #812 on: November 13, 2012, 07:02:24 AM »

One has to wonder what the Liberals are thinking by trying to go toe to toe with the PQ on language. There is no way they are going to win the votes of hardcore French nationalists. This will alienate their best supporters and risk another Equality Part. showing up.

Equality Party was a disaster which only marginalized Anglos. It looked to the average French voters than the Anglos were unable to accept than they were a minority and weren't ruling Québec as before the 60's. I'm quite sure than a rerun wouldn't work.

Liberals are making a wonderful work of making Anglos voting for them by scaring them with the risk of independantists having the most seats in Assembly if they don't vote Liberal.

I think an Equality Party would be useful to Anglos insofar as it reminds the Liberals that they can't win power without the Anglos. Not that it should stay around longer than 1-2 elections.
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« Reply #813 on: November 13, 2012, 06:35:35 PM »

Speaking as a Quebec Anglo, no. Just no.


In other news... ugh, just ugh. I don't like the current system but the law's the law.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201211/13/01-4593372-penashue-surpris-et-decu-des-allegations-de-financement-illegal.php

More ugh.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201211/13/01-4593341-lequilibre-budgetaire-encore-reporte-dun-an.php

The opposition parties won't get much, if any, of this stuff.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201211/13/01-4593341-lequilibre-budgetaire-encore-reporte-dun-an.php
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« Reply #814 on: November 13, 2012, 08:08:43 PM »

Speaking as a Quebec Anglo, no. Just no.

Rogue Beaver, I was a twinkle in my dad's eye when the Equality party won seats. What is so bad about them?
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« Reply #815 on: November 13, 2012, 11:23:46 PM »

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The thing is that this is mostly directed at non-Anglos hoping to educate their children in English, i.e. some (esp. middle-class federalist) Francophones + certain immigrant groups. What "applying Bill 101" to a level of education means is that you must have yourself been educated in English to send your children to the English system. The Anglophones won't like it, but they're not affected enough to spark some revolt.

The exception to this is getting rid of the language-of-work exemption for businesses with under 50 employees, but I assume they're not actually going to make some little store owner in Aylmer speak French to his staff of three. That's the sort of thing they say they're "considering" every so often to assuage the nutters.

(also, for those more fluent in French, what is "l'obligation d'utiliser un générique en français avec un nom de commerce anglais"? The only sense I can make of this is that it's about things like saying "un mouchoir" instead of "un kleenex", but surely they're not going to write that into the law?)
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« Reply #816 on: November 14, 2012, 11:34:46 AM »

(also, for those more fluent in French, what is "l'obligation d'utiliser un générique en français avec un nom de commerce anglais"? The only sense I can make of this is that it's about things like saying "un mouchoir" instead of "un kleenex", but surely they're not going to write that into the law?)

No, it's not that. Its the stores which must have a French name. The government already requires it, but some businesses aren't willing to follow, saying they interpret the law another way. It's on the way to the courts.

To solve that, PQ wants to clearly write it in the law. For example, Starbucks Coffee is called Café Starbucks and Staples is called Bureau en Gros, Giant Tiger is called Tigre Géant.

Other businesses must add a generical French name to their name (magasin, électronique, etc.). Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Costco, Gap, Old Navy and Guess are suing.
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« Reply #817 on: November 14, 2012, 12:40:37 PM »

(also, for those more fluent in French, what is "l'obligation d'utiliser un générique en français avec un nom de commerce anglais"? The only sense I can make of this is that it's about things like saying "un mouchoir" instead of "un kleenex", but surely they're not going to write that into the law?)

No, it's not that. Its the stores which must have a French name. The government already requires it, but some businesses aren't willing to follow, saying they interpret the law another way. It's on the way to the courts.

To solve that, PQ wants to clearly write it in the law. For example, Starbucks Coffee is called Café Starbucks and Staples is called Bureau en Gros, Giant Tiger is called Tigre Géant.

Other businesses must add a generical French name to their name (magasin, électronique, etc.). Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Costco, Gap, Old Navy and Guess are suing.

Oh, Quebec. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #818 on: November 14, 2012, 09:53:34 PM »

(also, for those more fluent in French, what is "l'obligation d'utiliser un générique en français avec un nom de commerce anglais"? The only sense I can make of this is that it's about things like saying "un mouchoir" instead of "un kleenex", but surely they're not going to write that into the law?)

No, it's not that. Its the stores which must have a French name. The government already requires it, but some businesses aren't willing to follow, saying they interpret the law another way. It's on the way to the courts.

To solve that, PQ wants to clearly write it in the law. For example, Starbucks Coffee is called Café Starbucks and Staples is called Bureau en Gros, Giant Tiger is called Tigre Géant.

Other businesses must add a generical French name to their name (magasin, électronique, etc.). Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Costco, Gap, Old Navy and Guess are suing.

I see, thanks.
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« Reply #819 on: November 20, 2012, 09:47:05 PM »

As expected, the Quebec opposition parties will not trigger an election over the budget. 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/quebecers-might-be-heading-back-to-the-polls-after-threats-to-defeat-the-budget-180225281.html
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« Reply #820 on: November 20, 2012, 09:58:34 PM »

(also, for those more fluent in French, what is "l'obligation d'utiliser un générique en français avec un nom de commerce anglais"? The only sense I can make of this is that it's about things like saying "un mouchoir" instead of "un kleenex", but surely they're not going to write that into the law?)

No, it's not that. Its the stores which must have a French name. The government already requires it, but some businesses aren't willing to follow, saying they interpret the law another way. It's on the way to the courts.

To solve that, PQ wants to clearly write it in the law. For example, Starbucks Coffee is called Café Starbucks and Staples is called Bureau en Gros, Giant Tiger is called Tigre Géant.

Other businesses must add a generical French name to their name (magasin, électronique, etc.). Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Costco, Gap, Old Navy and Guess are suing.


Some companies have been doing this for years, like KFC (PFK).
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« Reply #821 on: November 21, 2012, 01:29:41 PM »

David McGuinty is an ass, Brazeau continues to be pukeworthy, and Christy Clark's party is still a train wreck.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/senator-who-lives-near-ottawa-gets-20k-housing-allowance-1.1046956

http://www.canada.com/news/Entire%2BLiberal%2Briding%2Bassociation%2Bboard%2Bresigns%2Bover/7586334/story.html

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/justin-trudeau-alberta-tories-react-to-go-home-comments-by-liberal-mcguinty-180285351.html
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« Reply #822 on: November 21, 2012, 01:35:34 PM »

So just a normal day in Canadian politics
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« Reply #823 on: November 21, 2012, 02:33:30 PM »

Rae apologizes for McGuinty.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/rae-apologizes-for-liberal-mps-assertion-that-alberta-tories-should-go-home-180391011.html


Joe Fontana has been indicted by the RCMP.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/11/20121121-133355.html
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« Reply #824 on: November 21, 2012, 02:50:53 PM »

lol London
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