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Peter the Lefty
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« Reply #175 on: March 25, 2012, 11:12:28 AM »

Another grand coalition in Saarland?  Wow, big change there.  The SPD is too chicken to join forces with the Left there too, I take it?
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« Reply #176 on: March 25, 2012, 11:12:52 AM »


Jörg Schönenborn strongly implied that they probably won't.
They always seem to treat 5.0% as just over 5% on the telly.
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« Reply #177 on: March 25, 2012, 11:15:26 AM »

29% of all male first-time voters voted Pirate.
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« Reply #178 on: March 25, 2012, 11:16:09 AM »

Let's see if the Greens are above 5% in the final vote count. Usually, when they have 5% in the exit poll, they will end up at less than 5% in the vote count. SPD-Left would have a majority then and maybe the SPD says Heiko Maas needs to go and we enter a SPD-Left coalition.
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« Reply #179 on: March 25, 2012, 11:18:48 AM »

1st ARD projection:

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« Reply #180 on: March 25, 2012, 11:19:04 AM »

Frankfurt, 50/461 precincts  in already.

Peter Feldmann 59.5%. Wtf? I guess I need to check what precincts those are. Grin
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« Reply #181 on: March 25, 2012, 11:21:17 AM »

Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer (CDU) also wins the direct vote for Prime Minister:

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« Reply #182 on: March 25, 2012, 11:21:39 AM »

Another grand coalition in Saarland?  Wow, big change there.

Why's that? This would be the first grand coalition Saarland had since 1961.
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« Reply #183 on: March 25, 2012, 11:23:29 AM »

Another grand coalition in Saarland?  Wow, big change there.

Why's that? This would be the first grand coalition Saarland had since 1961.
I think he meant, yet another state with a grand coalition, the Saar this time.

Have had a look at those precincts. Will get closer, but no way does Rhein win this.
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« Reply #184 on: March 25, 2012, 11:24:06 AM »

Another grand coalition in Saarland?  Wow, big change there.

Why's that? This would be the first grand coalition Saarland had since 1961.
Because the CDU would still hold the governor's office, and it would only be a hair more left-wing than the CDU-FDP-Greens coalition.  
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« Reply #185 on: March 25, 2012, 11:27:38 AM »

Half the precincts are in. Wow, counting is fast when there's only one vote and two piles to make.

Feldmann 58.4%. This looks like a landslide folks. This is 3 percentage points beyond my wildest dreams.
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« Reply #186 on: March 25, 2012, 11:30:52 AM »



BTW: Feldmann is the SPD-guy in Frankfurt ? When was the last time Frankfurt had a SPD-mayor ?
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« Reply #187 on: March 25, 2012, 11:33:53 AM »

LOL. They could have a SPD-left government and instead they choose another stupid grand coalition which will govern to the right. Germany is quite depressing.
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« Reply #188 on: March 25, 2012, 11:36:26 AM »

Presumably there are personal 'issues' between the Saarland SPD and Saarland Left? Given that the latter are defectors from the former?
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« Reply #189 on: March 25, 2012, 11:36:43 AM »

Nieder-Erlenbach is complete. Rhein 60.6% (+3.9), turnout 51.0% (-1.3).

So is the Riederwald. Rhein 26.5% (-1.5), turnout 32.5% (-1.3).

Lol, it's a partial result with no postal votes, but Feldmann is ahead in Westend North! Grin


BTW: Feldmann is the SPD-guy in Frankfurt ? When was the last time Frankfurt had a SPD-mayor ?
1989 to 1995. Two of them, both ruined by the SPD right wing disliking their Green coalition partner and hating the SPD left wing.
Then we had the newly introduced direct elections and a popular moderate female Landtag member as CDU candidate... and now she's been mayor for literally half my life, but now retiring.
At the last local elections of course, the SPD dropped to third place behind the CDU's Green coalition partner...
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« Reply #190 on: March 25, 2012, 11:38:22 AM »

Presumably there are personal 'issues' between the Saarland SPD and Saarland Left? Given that the latter are defectors from the former?
These seemed surmountable as recently as the last state election. But the German left (political caste) right now is pathetic, there's really no other word for it. That includes the Left as well as the SPD and Greens. And hence the emergence of the Pirates.
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« Reply #191 on: March 25, 2012, 11:40:43 AM »

Results:

http://www.statistikextern.saarland.de/wahlen/wahlen/2012/internet_saar/LT_SL_12/landesergebnisse
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« Reply #192 on: March 25, 2012, 11:40:49 AM »

Presumably there are personal 'issues' between the Saarland SPD and Saarland Left? Given that the latter are defectors from the former?

Maybe they should start wondering why these people defected ? And why so many voters also defected the SPD in favor of them ?

(yes, I know I'm dreaming)
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« Reply #193 on: March 25, 2012, 11:41:17 AM »

Still 58.0%. Party time. If I were Olaf Cunitz or Sarah Sorge I'd think about resigning right now, but then that's part of the reason why I'm not.
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« Reply #194 on: March 25, 2012, 11:41:46 AM »

I have much prettier results!

http://www.wahlen.frankfurt.de/
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« Reply #195 on: March 25, 2012, 11:43:57 AM »
« Edited: March 25, 2012, 11:58:51 AM by We are the 376! »

Oh yeah, the PARTEI auctioned off its endorsement on ebay (money raised to be donated to the Zoo for cuter animals, the renovation of the meerkats' place to be precise.) A Feldmann supporter payed 122 Euros for it.
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« Reply #196 on: March 25, 2012, 11:46:44 AM »

In which precinct of Frankfurt are you living again ?
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« Reply #197 on: March 25, 2012, 11:48:09 AM »


Any idea why it's such a (pretty) blowout?
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« Reply #198 on: March 25, 2012, 11:54:08 AM »

New NRW poll from Infratest-dimap

SPD 40%
CDU 32%
Greens 12%
Pirates 5%
FDP 4%
Left 3%
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« Reply #199 on: March 25, 2012, 11:57:44 AM »

In which precinct of Frankfurt are you living again ?
080 01. 64% Feldmann, 0% turnout (okay 21% + postal voters, but still...)Green voters came through for Feldmann anyways just as I expected, FAG voters did actually come through for Feldmann as I didn't expect. Those South Sachsenhausen precincts are deep black when the airport's not an issue. And then... uh... what, exactly? My personal ideas on what drove (comparative) youth turnout in the first round look to have been accurate - more of an anti Rhein vote than anything else, for all of the minor candidates. I mean, this is the state interior minister after all. I know what the Ultras think of him... Grin
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