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« Reply #225 on: March 26, 2012, 11:47:29 AM »

How lackluster does FDP leadership have to be, for their party to barely beat the Nazis for seventh place? I thought the Liberal Party of Canada set the world record for terrible party leadership.
It doesn't help that these snap elections were caused by the complete breakdown of the FDP parliamentary party in the state.
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« Reply #226 on: March 26, 2012, 12:04:42 PM »

I like this picture.

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« Reply #227 on: March 26, 2012, 12:26:26 PM »

Frankfurt, absentee result Feldmann 50.5%, day vote result Feldmann 59.0%.

Basically the same people cast absentee votes in the runoff as in the first round - simply because most people who requested an absentee ballot did so for both rounds at the same time. (All you had to do was check a different box.) And indeed, fewer of the requested postals came back for round two than round one - though the decrease was less than in the day vote, meaning the share of the total vote that was absentee was marginally up further.

Oh, and here's that table again.



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« Reply #228 on: March 26, 2012, 02:15:33 PM »


Grin

The right one looks like a Pirate, no ?
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« Reply #229 on: March 26, 2012, 02:16:15 PM »

He is, he is. The other two are Maas and Kramp-Karrenbauer.
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« Reply #230 on: March 26, 2012, 02:19:06 PM »

He also looks a bit like:



Maybe they should cast him, if they ever make a real-life South Park movie ... Tongue
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« Reply #231 on: March 28, 2012, 12:46:06 PM »

Feldmann is Jewish ?

He's apparently the first Jewish mayor of Frankfurt since 1933.

Btw, Lewis could you please make your cartoon signature smaller ?
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« Reply #232 on: March 29, 2012, 12:45:43 PM »

Schleswig-Holstein poll (Infratest dimap)

CDU 34%
SPD 32%
Greens 15%
Pirates 5%
SSW 4%
FDP 4%
Left 4%
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« Reply #233 on: March 29, 2012, 01:01:05 PM »


FDP surge ! Grin
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« Reply #234 on: March 29, 2012, 01:10:28 PM »


Bradley Effect ! Grin
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« Reply #235 on: March 29, 2012, 01:27:53 PM »



vs.



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« Reply #236 on: March 29, 2012, 01:57:14 PM »

I wonder whether the FDP is in full self-destruct mode now since they actively sabotaged the Schlecker bailout. How long will the CDU be willing to take this crap?

In any case, Rösler's current strategy to "save" the party seems to be: Be as unpredictable as possible. Tongue
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« Reply #237 on: April 03, 2012, 04:45:46 AM »

Piratesurge!

Emnid: CDU 36, SPD 27, Greens 13, Pirates 9, Left 7, FDP 3
Forsa: CDU 35, SPD 25, Greens 13, Pirates 12, Left 9, FDP 3

Maybe the SPD should tolerate a Green-Pirate-Left minority coalition after the federal elections. Tongue
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« Reply #238 on: April 03, 2012, 11:14:10 AM »

Piratesurge!

Emnid: CDU 36, SPD 27, Greens 13, Pirates 9, Left 7, FDP 3
Forsa: CDU 35, SPD 25, Greens 13, Pirates 12, Left 9, FDP 3

Maybe the SPD should tolerate a Green-Pirate-Left minority coalition after the federal elections. Tongue

That would be way preferable to a grand coalition, yeah... Tongue
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« Reply #239 on: April 03, 2012, 12:02:24 PM »

Why don't the Greens and the Pirates merge - I can't imagine that they are all that far apart on the issues and they must both appeal to a similar segment of the population.
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« Reply #240 on: April 03, 2012, 08:58:27 PM »
« Edited: April 03, 2012, 09:15:59 PM by General Buck Turgidson »

Why don't the Greens and the Pirates merge - I can't imagine that they are all that far apart on the issues and they must both appeal to a similar segment of the population.

Yeah, sure, if you can come up with a plan how the Pirates are gonna accept a gender quota for all party positions (or how the Greens are gonna accept abolition of the quota) that doesn't result in murder, mayhem, and man-made megadeaths.

The Greens have a women's quota of 50%, the SPD has a quota of 40%, and the Pirates have none. The Greens think that the SPD's quota is unacceptedly low and not pursued rigorously enough. Figure out the rest.

Besides, what is the point of the Pirates' existence (from the Pirates' point of view), if they're gonna merge with a "mainstream" party at the earliest opportunity? If a Pirate had wanted to join the Greens he had already done so instead of joining the Pirates.
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« Reply #241 on: April 04, 2012, 10:42:30 AM »



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« Reply #242 on: April 04, 2012, 11:59:22 AM »

Why don't the Greens and the Pirates merge - I can't imagine that they are all that far apart on the issues and they must both appeal to a similar segment of the population.
Somewhat similar. Certainly the Pirates wouldn't have emerged if the Greens were still the 80s Greens.
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« Reply #243 on: April 04, 2012, 12:17:40 PM »

Why don't the Greens and the Pirates merge - I can't imagine that they are all that far apart on the issues and they must both appeal to a similar segment of the population.
Somewhat similar. Certainly the Pirates wouldn't have emerged if the Greens were still the 80s Greens.

Depends on how you define "80s Greens" though. If the Greens were really still the 80s Greens they would pursue a staunch anti-computer/anti-Internet stance. For instance, their somewhat neo-luddite 1987 campaign platform is pretty funny read in that respect. Therefore the Pirates would probably exist and poll at 20% right now. Tongue
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« Reply #244 on: April 04, 2012, 12:25:16 PM »

Well yeah, I mostly meant the whole joining the establishment (or rather being joined by people who want to make a career in establishment politics) thing.
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« Reply #245 on: April 08, 2012, 12:42:31 AM »

For the first time in 2 years, Black-Yellow has overtaken Red-Green - says a new Emnid poll:

36% CDU/CSU
26% SPD
13% Greens
10% Pirates
  7% Left
  4% FDP
  4% Others

40% Black-Yellow
39% Red-Green

There's a 49-43 majority for SPD-Green-Pirates.
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« Reply #246 on: April 08, 2012, 02:33:41 AM »

Wait, is the FDP really going up ? How comes ?
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« Reply #247 on: April 08, 2012, 04:32:54 AM »

For the first time in 2 years, Black-Yellow has overtaken Red-Green - says a new Emnid poll:

36% CDU/CSU
26% SPD
13% Greens
10% Pirates
  7% Left
  4% FDP
  4% Others

40% Black-Yellow
39% Red-Green

There's a 49-43 majority for SPD-Green-Pirates.

Cheesy

Red-Green is pathetic.
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« Reply #248 on: April 08, 2012, 07:07:05 AM »

Yeah, from 2013 onwards we're gonna have another Grand coalition under Merkel. We already knew that. Tongue

Maybe Sigmar Gabriel would be ballsy/crazy enough to actually do a SPD/Green/Pirate coalition, but Steinmeier and Steinbrück like to play it safe. And this means coalition with the CDU.
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« Reply #249 on: April 08, 2012, 01:17:26 PM »

Wow, just took the SlH Wahlomat. I knew the state CDU is that dreadful, but I didn't know how bad the Greens were.

My result
Left 82/102
SSW 72/102
SPD 71/102
Pirates 71/102
Greens 59/102
FW 57/102
NPD 45/102
CDU 31/102

I did not include joke parties (you can include 8 parties maximum).
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