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« Reply #200 on: March 25, 2012, 12:08:49 pm »
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And Feldmann did actually win Westend North. By six votes and all, but still. Unterliederbach, too, and almost won Berkersheim.

Also, the last dozen precincts are annoying me by not coming through.
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« Reply #201 on: March 25, 2012, 12:26:20 pm »
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Final result. 57.4%. 35.1% turnout. My mom's new precinct on the very edge of official North End where nobody would ever think themselves not in Bornheim was one of Feldmann's strongest in the entire city. 77.2%. (That special Ginnheim precinct gave him 82%, though.)
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« Reply #202 on: March 25, 2012, 12:32:10 pm »
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Westend South, Zeilsheim, Sossenheim, Berkersheim, the four in the north. That's it. Anything else is a sea of red.

Some of these places haven't been carried by the SPD since the mid 70s, if then.
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« Reply #203 on: March 25, 2012, 12:35:29 pm »
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Meanwhile, the CDU repeats its win in the city of Saarbrücken.

By 2 votes.
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« Reply #204 on: March 25, 2012, 12:51:50 pm »
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Things repeat on the Saar... the last few municipalities just don't want through. Worth noting the Greens are on 5.1% right now with Saarbrücken and Saarlouis already in.
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« Reply #205 on: March 25, 2012, 12:58:34 pm »
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Not going to bother with how the seat distribution will work out, so here's just the top two candidates from each of the three regional lists for the Pirates.

    and definitely not least

EDIT: Removed the two people not elected.
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« Reply #206 on: March 25, 2012, 01:01:09 pm »
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OMG, a woman! Well, girl. Tongue
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« Reply #207 on: March 25, 2012, 01:03:23 pm »
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Btw, I still find it hilarious that the first (and perhaps only) Pirate woman who would enter the state parliament in Schleswig-Holstein is former Green federal chairwoman Angelika Beer.
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« Reply #208 on: March 25, 2012, 01:18:23 pm »
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How comes turnout figures are so abysmal ? Is it commonplace in German mayoral elections ?
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« Reply #209 on: March 25, 2012, 01:25:39 pm »
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Official result for Saarland was just proclaimed.

CDU 35.2%
SPD 30.6%
Left 16.1%
Pirates 7.4%
Greens 5.0%
Family Party 1.7%
FDP 1.2%
NPD 1.2%
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« Reply #210 on: March 25, 2012, 01:30:20 pm »
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Notable Saarland figures:

- FDP beats the NPD by 267 votes and therefore manages to come in seventh instead of eighth. Tongue

- Precise result for the Greens is 5.039%.
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« Reply #211 on: March 25, 2012, 01:31:19 pm »
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Pretty sad state for a party that fights with the NPD ... Tongue
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« Reply #212 on: March 25, 2012, 01:33:41 pm »
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Majority for SPD-Left by 1.
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« Reply #213 on: March 25, 2012, 01:48:12 pm »
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Pretty sad state for a party that fights with the NPD ... Tongue

It's the third worst result ever for the FDP in state elections. (The worst results were 1.1% in Thuringen and Sachsen in 1999. That year the FDP had 2.6% in Saarland, btw)
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« Reply #214 on: March 25, 2012, 02:01:57 pm »
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Notable Saarland figures:

- FDP beats the NPD by 267 votes and therefore manages to come in seventh instead of eighth. Tongue

- Precise result for the Greens is 5.039%.
Well, drat. And drat.
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« Reply #215 on: March 25, 2012, 02:04:28 pm »
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« Reply #216 on: March 25, 2012, 02:10:56 pm »
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It's not as if the office is all powerful or anything. Or as if Hesse had a tradition of direct mayoral elections that predated the tradition of low turnout in lesser elections - things may sometimes be different in rural settings, but in the cities and the suburbs mayoral elections have the lowest turnout of all.

(And I think that if the CDU had gone with someone less prominent and thus divisive, treasurer Uwe Becker, say, they would have won this election. On an even lower turnout.)
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« Reply #217 on: March 25, 2012, 02:36:58 pm »
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It's not as if the office is all powerful or anything. Or as if Hesse had a tradition of direct mayoral elections that predated the tradition of low turnout in lesser elections - things may sometimes be different in rural settings, but in the cities and the suburbs mayoral elections have the lowest turnout of all.

(And I think that if the CDU had gone with someone less prominent and thus divisive, treasurer Uwe Becker, say, they would have won this election. On an even lower turnout.)

It's funny how it's basically the reverse in France. Turnout in 2008 mayorals was around 65%, for 2010 regionals it was below 50%.
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« Reply #218 on: March 25, 2012, 02:43:32 pm »
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Fun fact: in the 2001 runoff, turnout rose in exactly one neighborhood - the Riederwald - and the CDU score actually fell in exactly one neighborhood - Sindlingen.
In the 2012 runoff, turnout rose in exactly one neighborhood - Bockenheim this time - and the CDU score actually fell in two. The Riederwald. And Sindlingen.
I wonder if there's some kind of crazy explanation or it's just random.
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« Reply #219 on: March 25, 2012, 02:50:15 pm »

It's not as if the office is all powerful or anything. Or as if Hesse had a tradition of direct mayoral elections that predated the tradition of low turnout in lesser elections - things may sometimes be different in rural settings, but in the cities and the suburbs mayoral elections have the lowest turnout of all.

(And I think that if the CDU had gone with someone less prominent and thus divisive, treasurer Uwe Becker, say, they would have won this election. On an even lower turnout.)

It's funny how it's basically the reverse in France. Turnout in 2008 mayorals was around 65%, for 2010 regionals it was below 50%.

France is one of the few European countries which still gets over 50% turnout in local elections afaik.
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« Reply #220 on: March 25, 2012, 05:21:01 pm »
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Since their success in the Berlin state election last September, party membership of the Pirates has nearly doubled (from 12,000 to 22,000 members). Meaning they're now one third as large as the Greens or the FDP. We'll see what effect Saarland has.
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« Reply #221 on: March 25, 2012, 10:02:10 pm »
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What sort of government is likely to be formed in Saarland? Red-Red or Grand Coalition?
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« Reply #222 on: March 25, 2012, 10:29:37 pm »
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How lackluster does FDP leadership have to be, for their party to barely beat the Nazis for seventh place? I thought the Liberal Party of Canada set the world record for terrible party leadership.
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« Reply #223 on: March 26, 2012, 05:55:05 am »
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New Bayern poll by TNS Emnid for "Focus" magazine:

46% (+3) CSU
20% (+1) SPD
13% (+4) Greens
  8%  (-2) FW
  5% (+5) Pirates
  2%  (-6) FDP
  6%  (-5) Others (incl. Left Party)

http://www.focus.de/magazin/kurzfassungen/focus-13-2012-umfrage-csu-in-bayern-bei-46-prozent-patt-mit-der-opposition_aid_727567.html
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« Reply #224 on: March 26, 2012, 10:55:19 am »
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From the point of view of current party chairman Philipp Rösler, it doesn't really matter whether the FDP makes it past 5% in the NRW election or not. I assume there will be calls for Christian Lindner to take over party either way.

If the FDP ends up below 5% in NRW it will attributed to Rösler's failed leadership and they will call for his resignation. If the FDP ends up above 5% it will attributed to the fact that Lindner is the only one left in party who's able to win elections and so they will call for Rösler's resignation sooner or later.
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