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Tender Branson
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« Reply #300 on: May 06, 2012, 12:34:03 PM »

For the past ten years, Wolfgang Kubicki has said in every interview that most of what the FDP federal leadership does is total bullsh**t. Hence his high credibility.

Other than saying that the federal FDP leadership is total bullsh*t, are there any differences in the state FDP and federal FDP when it comes to policy ?
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« Reply #301 on: May 06, 2012, 12:37:45 PM »

Latest ARD projection:



Latest ZDF projection:



No change when it comes to seats.
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« Reply #302 on: May 06, 2012, 12:40:16 PM »

A SPD-led coalition with the Greens and the SSW would probably be the best for the state and also what voters want, because SPD-frontrunner Albig leads the CDU-guy in the direct vote for Governor by almost 2:1 in the Exit Poll.
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« Reply #303 on: May 06, 2012, 12:42:29 PM »

For the past ten years, Wolfgang Kubicki has said in every interview that most of what the FDP federal leadership does is total bullsh**t. Hence his high credibility.

Other than saying that the federal FDP leadership is total bullsh*t, are there any differences in the state FDP and federal FDP when it comes to policy ?
Wolfgang Kubicki is a complete and very competent media whore and believes whatever you believe, baby.
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« Reply #304 on: May 06, 2012, 01:39:14 PM »

Contrary to initial exits, Pirates have probably beaten the FDP.
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« Reply #305 on: May 06, 2012, 01:51:37 PM »

SSW won Harrislee! Cheesy



SSW 26.8 (+2.0)
SPD 25.6 (+3.Cool
CDU 24.6 (-0.4)
Greens 9.4 (+1.3)
FDP 6.1 (-5.Cool
Pirates 4.8 (+3.7)
Left 1.4 (-3.7)

(Harrislee is squeezed in between Flensburg and the Danish border, and frankly I guess the minors' results are suppressed by the SSW alternative. It's biggish by SlH standards, 8500 registered voters.)
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« Reply #306 on: May 06, 2012, 02:10:27 PM »

First constituency result: Neumünster.

list vote:
SPD 33.9 (+4.7)
CDU 29.2 (-1.4)
Greens 11.2 (+0.5)
Pirates 8.4 (+6.5)
FDP 7.4 (-6.6)
SSW 3.8 (+0.Cool
Left 2.6 (-3.Cool

direct vote: SPD gain, 39.6-38.1.
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« Reply #307 on: May 06, 2012, 02:18:46 PM »

East Holstein N
SPD 34.6 (+5.5)
CDU 33.0 (+0.6)
Greens 9.9 (+0.6)
Pirates 8.1 (+6.7)
FDP 7.9 (-7.8)
SSW 2.0 (+0.3)
Left 2.0 (-3.4)
Direct: SPD gain by 242 votes (0.5%).
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« Reply #308 on: May 06, 2012, 02:22:54 PM »

Stormarn N
CDU 31.8 (-0.5)
SPD 29.2 (+4.7)
Greens 15.2 (+1.6)
Pirates 8.8 (+7.0)
FDP 8.1 (-8.2)
SSW 2.2 (+0.2)
Left 2.0 (-4.3)

CDU hold direct.
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« Reply #309 on: May 06, 2012, 02:30:00 PM »

Link to the results?
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« Reply #310 on: May 06, 2012, 02:33:14 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2012, 02:38:57 PM by Minion of Midas »

http://www.landtagswahl-sh.de/wahlen.php?site=left/status_karte&wahl=23

I was just going to claim that no one besides me seems to give a flying chutiya. Three more results in, two safe SPD seats in Kiel and funny ole Flensburg (another SPD gain, with 18.4% SSW in the list vote.)

Flensburg Rural CDU hold.
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« Reply #311 on: May 06, 2012, 02:39:31 PM »

http://www.landtagswahl-sh.de/wahlen.php?site=left/status_karte&wahl=23

I was just going to claim that no one besides me seems to give a flying chutiya. Three more results in, two safe SPD seats in Kiel and funny ole Flensburg (another SPD gain, with 18.4% SSW in the list vote.)
I care - and am most certainly following the results Smiley
And: Go SSW Cheesy
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« Reply #312 on: May 06, 2012, 02:44:47 PM »

SPD gain Elmshorn, CDU hold Stormarn C.
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« Reply #313 on: May 06, 2012, 03:05:40 PM »

http://www.landtagswahl-sh.de/wahlen.php?site=left/status_karte&wahl=23

I was just going to claim that no one besides me seems to give a flying chutiya. Three more results in, two safe SPD seats in Kiel and funny ole Flensburg (another SPD gain, with 18.4% SSW in the list vote.)

Flensburg Rural CDU hold.

I do care, I must admit I'm surprised over the good result in Neumünster for SSW , as it lies outside the both the Danish and Frisian minorities traditional areas. Is it a protest votes against the CDU campaign, or is there aonther reason for their good result?
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« Reply #314 on: May 06, 2012, 04:00:32 PM »

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« Reply #315 on: May 06, 2012, 09:29:51 PM »

Final seat count is

CDU: 22
SPD: 22
Greens: 10
FDP: 6
Pirates: 6
SSW: 3

So SPD/Greens/SSW gets to 35
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« Reply #316 on: May 07, 2012, 02:46:55 PM »

Fun fact: CDU won 22 direct seats, SPD 13. No overhang seats - and the CDU candidate for state pm Jost de Jager has not been elected to parliament.

And yeah, they want to try the "Danish Traffic Light".
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« Reply #317 on: May 07, 2012, 02:49:10 PM »

Lol, 1st on the list and no seat in parliament Smiley
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« Reply #318 on: May 09, 2012, 03:00:12 AM »

Kurt Beck, the premier of Germany’s Rhineland-Palatinate regional state, plans to step down this month, Tagesspiegel reported, without saying where it obtained the information.

Beck, a member of the Social Democratic Party, is likely to propose Roger Lewentz, the state’s interior minister, as his successor, the newspaper said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-09/rhineland-palatinate-premier-to-step-down-tagesspiegel-reports.html
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« Reply #319 on: May 09, 2012, 03:03:52 AM »

I'll actually miss the guy. Surprising.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #320 on: May 09, 2012, 03:06:14 AM »

I'll actually miss the guy. Surprising.

Maybe he's planning for 2013 ...
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« Reply #321 on: May 09, 2012, 03:07:36 AM »

I'll actually miss the guy. Surprising.

Maybe he's planning for 2013 ...

So weit gehen meine Sympathien dann doch nicht... Wink
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« Reply #322 on: May 09, 2012, 06:01:00 AM »

Fun fact: CDU won 22 direct seats, SPD 13. No overhang seats - and the CDU candidate for state pm Jost de Jager has not been elected to parliament.

And yeah, they want to try the "Danish Traffic Light".
Is it correctly understood that The Pirate Party is willing to support a Danish Traffic Light coalition from outside the cabinet? So that one or more silly SPD members cannot do the same trick as 2005.
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« Reply #323 on: May 09, 2012, 06:07:09 AM »

I haven't heard anything from the Pirates except that they aren't interested in being part of any government.

I imagine, though, that they'll often be voting with the new government.
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« Reply #324 on: May 09, 2012, 06:40:29 AM »

As I read in the Taz from Monday or yesterday, some Pirate parliament members think of voting for Albig if they "like the coalition treaty".
Of course, they like "Schleswig Holstein traffic light" more than an "grand coalition".
I think, they, at least some, will vote with them on occasion
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