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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: February 19, 2012, 02:23:43 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on February 19, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Early elections wouldn't even be too bad for the CDU at the moment.

Their share would even increase from 33% to about 38% ...

PLEASE MERKEL !!!! PLEASE GO ON !!! Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 02:40:08 PM »
Quote from: Franzl on February 19, 2012, 02:24:40 PM
Quote from: Antonio V on February 19, 2012, 02:23:43 PM
Quote from: Tender Branson on February 19, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Early elections wouldn't even be too bad for the CDU at the moment.

Their share would even increase from 33% to about 38% ...

PLEASE MERKEL !!!! PLEASE GO ON !!! Tongue

You're hoping for early elections because you're accepting a possible grand coalition as the lesser evil or because you still hope there might be a red-green government? Smiley

Anything will be better than the current black-yellow government. And the perspective to get rid of the FDP definitively is pretty appealing.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 12:28:36 PM »
Fun note : the son of Beate Klarsfeld, Arno Klarsfeld, is a French right-winger close to Sarkozy. I assume the two are not in very good terms... Wink
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 03:32:05 PM »
Quote from: Chemistry & Sleep Deprivation on March 10, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: Antonio V on March 10, 2012, 12:28:36 PM
Fun note : the son of Beate Klarsfeld, Arno Klarsfeld, is a French right-winger close to Sarkozy. I assume the two are not in very good terms... Wink

No, she publically endorsed Sarkozy.

And she is Die Linke's candidate !

So, politics really make no sense.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 03:37:21 PM »

No matter how much times I realize that, I always get stunned.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 11:33:53 AM »
LOL. They could have a SPD-left government and instead they choose another stupid grand coalition which will govern to the right. Germany is quite depressing.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 11:40:49 AM »
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on March 25, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
Presumably there are personal 'issues' between the Saarland SPD and Saarland Left? Given that the latter are defectors from the former?

Maybe they should start wondering why these people defected ? And why so many voters also defected the SPD in favor of them ?

(yes, I know I'm dreaming)
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 01:18:23 PM »
How comes turnout figures are so abysmal ? Is it commonplace in German mayoral elections ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 02:04:28 PM »
Quote from: Antonio V on March 25, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
How comes turnout figures are so abysmal ? Is it commonplace in German mayoral elections ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 02:36:58 PM »
Quote from: the only minion for you on March 25, 2012, 02:10:56 PM
It's not as if the office is all powerful or anything. Or as if Hesse had a tradition of direct mayoral elections that predated the tradition of low turnout in lesser elections - things may sometimes be different in rural settings, but in the cities and the suburbs mayoral elections have the lowest turnout of all.

(And I think that if the CDU had gone with someone less prominent and thus divisive, treasurer Uwe Becker, say, they would have won this election. On an even lower turnout.)

It's funny how it's basically the reverse in France. Turnout in 2008 mayorals was around 65%, for 2010 regionals it was below 50%.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 01:01:05 PM »

FDP surge ! Grin
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 11:14:10 AM »
Quote from: Catmuslim on April 03, 2012, 04:45:46 AM
Piratesurge!

Emnid: CDU 36, SPD 27, Greens 13, Pirates 9, Left 7, FDP 3
Forsa: CDU 35, SPD 25, Greens 13, Pirates 12, Left 9, FDP 3

Maybe the SPD should tolerate a Green-Pirate-Left minority coalition after the federal elections. Tongue

That would be way preferable to a grand coalition, yeah... Tongue
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2012, 02:33:41 AM »
Wait, is the FDP really going up ? How comes ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 07:37:59 PM »
Quote from: Leftbehind on April 12, 2012, 07:31:46 PM
The Pirates really are an absolute disease.

QFT.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2012, 06:54:24 AM »
What's going on with FDP ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2012, 04:19:41 PM »
So Fast Drei Prozent is now Über Acht Prozent now ? Meh...
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2012, 03:15:13 PM »
I'm sorry if I ask a question which has probably already been answered, but do we know which coalition will rule Schleswig-Holstein ? Is a SPD-Green-SSW coalition workable or are they stuck with another Grand Coalition ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2012, 03:35:51 PM »
Quote from: Franzl on May 16, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: Au revoir Nicolas ! on May 16, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
I'm sorry if I ask a question which has probably already been answered, but do we know which coalition will rule Schleswig-Holstein ? Is a SPD-Green-SSW coalition workable or are they stuck with another Grand Coalition ?

The former almost certainly.

Good, I guess. This will give the left 30 seats in the Bundesrat and could complicate Merkel's job a bit.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2012, 03:56:06 PM »
Quote from: Franzl on May 16, 2012, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: Au revoir Nicolas ! on May 16, 2012, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Franzl on May 16, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: Au revoir Nicolas ! on May 16, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
I'm sorry if I ask a question which has probably already been answered, but do we know which coalition will rule Schleswig-Holstein ? Is a SPD-Green-SSW coalition workable or are they stuck with another Grand Coalition ?

The former almost certainly.

Good, I guess. This will give the left 30 seats in the Bundesrat and could complicate Merkel's job a bit.

Hate to disappoint you, but the SPD opposition on "European" topics is rather laughable Smiley

From what I've seen, I wouldn't be surprised if French coverage of German politics were awful and useless... But I recall to hear several times that the SPD was threatening to block ratification of the treaty if they didn't get measures for growth ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2012, 02:18:14 AM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 16, 2012, 11:58:31 PM
Lower Saxony seems to be next for the takeover:







When does it vote ?
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2012, 03:37:52 AM »

Meh... Sad
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2012, 05:55:18 AM »
Quote from: Franzl on May 16, 2012, 04:50:23 PM
From what I know they've made "demands" but stopped short of saying they would actually block if they didn't get what they wanted. Don't quote me on this though, I've not followed the SPD circus much recently. I doubt the SPD will do anything radical, though, they know perfectly well the vast majority of voters support Merkel's EU policies.

According to an italian newspaper Hollande, Ayrault and Gabriel have had discussions in order to adopt a common agenda regarding European growth policy and a modification of the treaty. I don't know if the SPD will go far enough, but something can certainly change.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2012, 12:40:09 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 18, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
NRW fallout polls by ARD and ZDF (but conducted before Röttgen got kicked out):

34.0% CDU/CSU
30.0% SPD
13.0% Greens
10.0% Pirates
  5.0% Left
  4.5% FDP
  3.5% Others

Probably a Grand Coalition. And lol @ the Left.

Why are they polling after the election happened ? Huh
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2012, 05:17:05 AM »
So when wil a credible and actually left-wing party emerge in Germany ?...
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2012, 11:16:26 AM »
Quote from: Franzl on May 19, 2012, 07:10:44 AM
Quote from: Au revoir Nicolas ! on May 19, 2012, 05:17:05 AM
So when wil a credible and actually left-wing party emerge in Germany ?...

I have to agree with what ZuWo just said Wink

Personally, it made me roll eyes... But I guess we have to agree to disagree...
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