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« on: January 12, 2012, 05:49:21 pm »
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Oceania Self Determination Act

1. The people of Oceania shall, twenty-five days after the passage of this Act, hold a public vote allowing them determinative options of the following:

1. To become a State of Atlasia within the Pacific Region.
2. To become a State of Atlasia within the Midwest Region.
3. To remain separate federal territories.
4. To enter negotiations for separation from Atlasia into becoming an independent nation.


2. The vote shall be administered by the collective administration of the Secretary of Federal Elections, Secretary of Internal Affairs, and Game Moderator, and shall last 72 hours.

3. Sixty days past the conclusion of the public vote, this Act shall be moved to the Repealed Statute wiki page.

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 06:16:40 pm »
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I have to ask Senator Marokai this:

What qualifies this bill to be debated in the Senate? I believe this should be introduced, if anywhere, at the regional level.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 06:19:58 pm »
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I have to ask Senator Marokai this:

What qualifies this bill to be debated in the Senate? I believe this should be introduced, if anywhere, at the regional level.

Approval of the Senate is required to alter regional boundaries.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 06:22:20 pm »
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I have to ask Senator Marokai this:

What qualifies this bill to be debated in the Senate? I believe this should be introduced, if anywhere, at the regional level.

Approval of the Senate is required to alter regional boundaries.

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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 06:01:04 pm »
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The Pacific Region will not give up Oceania, and our consent is required. The Senate can't just decide this. Besides, I don't think anyone is even registered there in the first place. What, is someone going to move there just to steal it?

Basically the GM wrote some wildly inaccurate stories, ignored the fact that the Pacific Region passed a law right away incorporating the new state into our region while granting the state a great deal of self-government, and is now trying to move the state to his region. Lame.

I motion to table!
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 06:02:01 pm »
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I motion to table!

Senators, there is a motion to table this bill. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 06:02:12 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 06:04:56 pm »
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The Midwest Senator is once again crossing the line.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 07:28:25 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 07:32:26 pm »
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The Pacific Region will not give up Oceania, and our consent is required. The Senate can't just decide this. Besides, I don't think anyone is even registered there in the first place. What, is someone going to move there just to steal it?

Basically the GM wrote some wildly inaccurate stories, ignored the fact that the Pacific Region passed a law right away incorporating the new state into our region while granting the state a great deal of self-government, and is now trying to move the state to his region. Lame.

I motion to table!

The GM determines reality and you respect it whether you like it or not, frankly. I have hated many stories in the past that Purple State and Badger wrote, and I do not always like Shua's determinations either. But we cannot just dismiss whatever they say.

The law you wrote was a pitiful excuse for an incorporation bill that did nothing to assuage any of their concerns. You wrote nothing about their language, their culture, their self governance, etc.

What you didn't like was any negative story being written about the Pacific region, and when asked to do anything, you dug in your heels and stubbornly refused to do so on purpose, letting the situation get worse because the GM would obviously have no choice but to taken into account your inaction, so you could turn around and cry about it. If you would've knocked it off and just wrote something about their goddamn language, this issue would've been resolved a long time ago. You prefer letting it be some silly personal issue instead.



Nay on the motion to table. You and Me Too need to knock those off as well.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 07:52:33 pm »
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I can understand the Pacific, but why the Midwest?
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 07:53:51 pm »
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The Pacific Region will not give up Oceania, and our consent is required. The Senate can't just decide this. Besides, I don't think anyone is even registered there in the first place. What, is someone going to move there just to steal it?

Basically the GM wrote some wildly inaccurate stories, ignored the fact that the Pacific Region passed a law right away incorporating the new state into our region while granting the state a great deal of self-government, and is now trying to move the state to his region. Lame.

I motion to table!

The GM determines reality and you respect it whether you like it or not, frankly. I have hated many stories in the past that Purple State and Badger wrote, and I do not always like Shua's determinations either. But we cannot just dismiss whatever they say.

The law you wrote was a pitiful excuse for an incorporation bill that did nothing to assuage any of their concerns. You wrote nothing about their language, their culture, their self governance, etc.

What you didn't like was any negative story being written about the Pacific region, and when asked to do anything, you dug in your heels and stubbornly refused to do so on purpose, letting the situation get worse because the GM would obviously have no choice but to taken into account your inaction, so you could turn around and cry about it. If you would've knocked it off and just wrote something about their goddamn language, this issue would've been resolved a long time ago. You prefer letting it be some silly personal issue instead.



Nay on the motion to table. You and Me Too need to knock those off as well.

I don't motion to table things very often. This bill is unconstitutional and I'm perfectly justified in my actions. And your interpretation of the bill is incorrect. It even says they will keep their local governments and that their incorporation into the Pacific is largely to give them voting rights in federal elections. The simple fact is there was a Pacifican response to Oceania. But you decided to use your position to go on some anti-JCP, anti-Pacific vendetta for whatever reason. And I can indeed ignore that if I want to.

ah, calling me a flame warrior and a cry baby. I see your tenure as PPT is off to a fantastic start! I'm sure debate in the Senate will flourish now that we have a leader who is willing to insult all who dare disagree with him.

I can understand the Pacific, but why the Midwest?

Because like I said, Marokai wants to steal our state for his region.
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 08:30:44 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 08:33:01 pm »
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I can understand the Pacific, but why the Midwest?

The Midwest Region cares about their culture. The Pacific does not.
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 08:36:09 pm »
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I can understand the Pacific, but why the Midwest?

The Midwest Region cares about their culture. The Pacific does not.
So does the IDS.  Give it to us.  We'll take good care of it Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2012, 10:42:42 pm »
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I can understand the Pacific, but why the Midwest?

The Midwest Region cares about their culture. The Pacific does not.
So does the IDS.  Give it to us.  We'll take good care of it Cheesy
As the official representative of the Mideast Region in the Senate, I demand that Oceania be incorporated into our great region (and also be given a less stupid name) Angry.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 01:11:10 am »
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I have already lost confidence in Mary's PPT abilities. It is clear the troll cannot take any job more seriously than he would in his other flame wars all over the forum.

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 03:05:08 am »
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Aye on the motion to table.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 11:39:37 am »
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I have already lost confidence in Mary's PPT abilities. It is clear the troll cannot take any job more seriously than he would in his other flame wars all over the forum.

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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 02:37:04 pm »
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I have already lost confidence in Mary's PPT abilities. It is clear the troll cannot take any job more seriously than he would in his other flame wars all over the forum.

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Jake, many of us are used to the firm leadership of PPT bgwah. We don't take well to undisciplined and immature hacks who hurl insults at us in every single post. There is no need for three dots.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2012, 05:25:54 pm »
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I have already lost confidence in Mary's PPT abilities. It is clear the troll cannot take any job more seriously than he would in his other flame wars all over the forum.

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Jake, many of us are used to the firm leadership of PPT bgwah. We don't take well to undisciplined and immature hacks who hurl insults at us in every single post. There is no need for three dots.

I won't way into on whether it is needed as I had to look up what it even meant.  My only question is who is "Mary?"  Is it a nickname?  If so, what is the meaning of it?
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2012, 05:30:57 pm »
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I have already lost confidence in Mary's PPT abilities. It is clear the troll cannot take any job more seriously than he would in his other flame wars all over the forum.

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Jake, many of us are used to the firm leadership of PPT bgwah. We don't take well to undisciplined and immature hacks who hurl insults at us in every single post. There is no need for three dots.

I won't way into on whether it is needed as I had to look up what it even meant.  My only question is who is "Mary?"  Is it a nickname?  If so, what is the meaning of it?

"Mary" is a nickname of "Marokai".

Now, Marokai and Napoleon, both of y'all please stay civil on the floor of the Senate.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2012, 05:34:09 pm »
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Nay on the motion to table.
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2012, 05:34:39 pm »
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I always assumed it was insult directed at his sexuality, because it was constantly used in IM chats by Hamilton and Libertas and I assumed they had originated it.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 05:35:48 pm »
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You can't act like you haven't seen the disgusting things being said about bgwah, wormyguy, or me over the last couple days.
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