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Topic: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Law'd] (Read 2956 times)
Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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E: -3.35, S: -8.17
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #25 on:
January 16, 2012, 03:04:28 pm »
You did not ask me anything. You stated your own opinions and followed it with a question mark. That doesn't mean you're asking a question.
Regardless, I don't know what that has to do with this debate. I've stated my positions on this bill very clearly.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
Jayhawker
tmthforu94
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #26 on:
January 16, 2012, 03:26:22 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 03:04:28 pm
You did not ask me anything. You stated your own opinions and followed it with a question mark. That doesn't mean you're asking a question.
Regardless, I don't know what that has to do with this debate. I've stated my positions on this bill very clearly.
I was asking it as a question - I'm sorry you didn't take it that way.
I was curiously interested in your opinion because if you had the same opinion I had, I had a potential amendment suggestion I was hoping to work with you on. I guess I'll have to seek someone else out on it.
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-Jackie Robinson
Quote from: John_Engle on November 02, 2012, 04:25:37 pm
Tmthforu94
You are very kind my Friend. Thank you and God bless the people like You.
Pacific Councillor Big Wiggly Style
20RP12
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E: -4.32, S: -7.04
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #27 on:
January 16, 2012, 04:03:54 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 02:20:03 pm
I stand for regional rights and do not support forcing regions to abide by arbitrary and impractical age restrictions.
Ah, I see.
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Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Posts: 11689
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E: -3.35, S: -8.17
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #28 on:
January 16, 2012, 04:27:17 pm »
So, what makes marijuana different from alcohol necessitating an age restriction? The Older Sibling Lobby must be throwing the cash around crazy.
I've already given my reasons for objecting to an amendment that no one has been able to explain the necessity of.
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Last Edit: January 16, 2012, 04:40:22 pm by No Good Napoleon
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
President Marokai
Marokai Blue
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Posts: 16155
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E: -7.42, S: -7.39
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #29 on:
January 16, 2012, 07:49:45 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 02:20:03 pm
I stand for regional rights and do not support forcing regions to abide by arbitrary and impractical age restrictions.
This is a preposterous position to take that makes absolutely no sense. If you don't want to force regions to abide by an age requirement because that's over the line, then you shouldn't even support this bill at all. The whole point of this bill is to make marijuana legalization untouchable by the regions, and it's something you once said yourself that you supported. How is that not anti-region to some degree?
Regardless of that hypocrisy, we're now voting on the following amendment:
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Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act
Section 1: Cleaning Up
1.
The
Marijuana Legalization and Taxation Act
is hereby repealed and shall be moved to the Repealed Statute wiki page.
2.
The
Amendment to the Marijuana Legalization and Taxation Act
is hereby repealed and shall be moved to the Repealed Statute wiki page.
Section 2: Regulation and Re-Affirming Legalization
1.
The possession, sale, and consumption of marijuana, and the plants needed for its processing, shall be legal
for citizens 18 and over
throughout the Republic of Atlasia.
2.
The commercial selling and smoking of marijuana cigarettes shall be subject to identical location-specific smoking regulations and cigarette tax rates as currently placed on tobacco, currently placed at $1.00 per pack.
3.
The commercial selling of products including marijuana shall be subject to an additional 10% excise tax.
4.
20% of revenue raised directly from the taxes of marijuana products specific in this or future Acts shall be directed to the construction and funding of treatment centers for alcohol, marijuana, and other drug abuses.
Aye.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
Pacific Councillor Big Wiggly Style
20RP12
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Posts: 17805
Political Matrix
E: -4.32, S: -7.04
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #30 on:
January 16, 2012, 07:50:44 pm »
Aye.
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Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Posts: 11689
Political Matrix
E: -3.35, S: -8.17
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #31 on:
January 16, 2012, 07:53:14 pm »
Nay.
Alcohol age restrictions are left up to the regions. We ought to be consistent.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
President Marokai
Marokai Blue
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Posts: 16155
Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -7.39
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #32 on:
January 16, 2012, 07:53:37 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 01:15:04 pm
Amendment to remove clause 3 from Section 2.
Amendment to remove clause 4 from Section 2.
I'm interpreting these as one single amendment, and objecting. We'll vote on them after we vote on the next amendment (Junkie's) since this is apparently going to be a fun bill!
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
Junkie
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #33 on:
January 16, 2012, 07:57:58 pm »
aye
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Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #34 on:
January 16, 2012, 08:02:22 pm »
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 16, 2012, 07:53:37 pm
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 01:15:04 pm
Amendment to remove clause 3 from Section 2.
Amendment to remove clause 4 from Section 2.
I'm interpreting these as one single amendment, and objecting. We'll vote on them after we vote on the next amendment (Junkie's) since this is apparently going to be a fun bill!
They are two separate amendments, bud.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
President Marokai
Marokai Blue
YaBB God
Posts: 16155
Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -7.39
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Debating]
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Reply #35 on:
January 16, 2012, 08:08:40 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 08:02:22 pm
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 16, 2012, 07:53:37 pm
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 01:15:04 pm
Amendment to remove clause 3 from Section 2.
Amendment to remove clause 4 from Section 2.
I'm interpreting these as one single amendment, and objecting. We'll vote on them after we vote on the next amendment (Junkie's) since this is apparently going to be a fun bill!
They are two separate amendments, bud.
Deciding to be as annoying as possible? Why don't you just introduce amendment to strike one letter at a time, while you're at it.
Fine. They're two amendments. Even though there is no reason at all why they have to be.
Since you're here, why don't you pop into your "Sanity" bill and have the balls to defend it? A debate over
there
would be appreciated.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Posts: 11689
Political Matrix
E: -3.35, S: -8.17
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #36 on:
January 16, 2012, 08:12:08 pm »
They must be two separate amendments so that the chances of passage aren't tied to each other. You know that though, so stop playing games.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
MOP
MOPolitico
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Posts: 734
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #37 on:
January 16, 2012, 08:27:34 pm »
Nay. I oppose this bill on the grounds of regional rights, but if regions are stripped of their power to ban marijuana, they should at least retain the right to set their own age limits.
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Jayhawker
tmthforu94
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #38 on:
January 16, 2012, 08:31:48 pm »
Sorry - I should have clarified it more when I wrote the amendment.
My purpose wasn't to create a national age limit. It was just to make sure that age limit was over the age of 18.
Perhaps an amendment that regions may adjust the age allowed, but there should at least be a bar it's set at, either 16, 17, or 18. I don't think it's wise to have little kids out doing thug work and smoking marijuana. Just me.
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A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.
-Jackie Robinson
Quote from: John_Engle on November 02, 2012, 04:25:37 pm
Tmthforu94
You are very kind my Friend. Thank you and God bless the people like You.
President Marokai
Marokai Blue
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Posts: 16155
Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -7.39
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #39 on:
January 16, 2012, 08:58:04 pm »
Quote from: Tmthforu94 on January 16, 2012, 08:31:48 pm
Sorry - I should have clarified it more when I wrote the amendment.
My purpose wasn't to create a national age limit. It was just to make sure that age limit was over the age of 18.
Perhaps an amendment that regions may adjust the age allowed, but there should at least be a bar it's set at, either 16, 17, or 18. I don't think it's wise to have little kids out doing thug work and smoking marijuana. Just me.
You should've known better than to take on the issue of marijuana when Napoleon is still a Senator. The hot political topics of drugs and parties are his specialty.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
TJ in Wisco
TJ in Cleve
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #40 on:
January 17, 2012, 12:14:44 am »
Nay
I refuse to support a nation mandate that marijuana must be legalized in all regions and further refuse to support mandating no older than 18 as the age limit. This amendment only strengthens the limitations on what regions may outlaw, therefore I oppose it.
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President Marokai
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #41 on:
January 17, 2012, 12:41:40 am »
Quote from: TJ in Cleve on January 17, 2012, 12:14:44 am
Nay
I refuse to support a nation mandate that marijuana must be legalized in all regions and further refuse to support mandating no older than 18 as the age limit. This amendment only strengthens the limitations on what regions may outlaw, therefore I oppose it.
At least your position is consistent.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #42 on:
January 17, 2012, 12:44:22 am »
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 17, 2012, 12:41:40 am
Quote from: TJ in Cleve on January 17, 2012, 12:14:44 am
Nay
I refuse to support a nation mandate that marijuana must be legalized in all regions and further refuse to support mandating no older than 18 as the age limit. This amendment only strengthens the limitations on what regions may outlaw, therefore I oppose it.
At least your position is consistent.
Consistent is keeping age restrictions up to the regions as we do with alcohol.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
President Marokai
Marokai Blue
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Posts: 16155
Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -7.39
Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #43 on:
January 17, 2012, 12:59:35 am »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 17, 2012, 12:44:22 am
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 17, 2012, 12:41:40 am
Quote from: TJ in Cleve on January 17, 2012, 12:14:44 am
Nay
I refuse to support a nation mandate that marijuana must be legalized in all regions and further refuse to support mandating no older than 18 as the age limit. This amendment only strengthens the limitations on what regions may outlaw, therefore I oppose it.
At least your position is consistent.
Consistent is keeping age restrictions up to the regions as we do with alcohol.
Consistent would be reliably opposing something that infringes on regional rights when you suddenly claim to be so concerned about them. The whole reason this bill exists is because you've complained, numerous times, about regional attempts to ban or restrict the sale of marijuana. You have no problem telling any region that wants to restrict the substance to piss off, but it's an
outrage
, positively an
outrage
, when the bill then proposes a set-in-stone age limit.
Your position here is either hypocritical, or you just can't help yourself from using insanely hyperbolic language every time you get an opportunity and it just
comes off
that way.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
bgwah
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #44 on:
January 17, 2012, 01:07:16 am »
aye
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Nathan
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #45 on:
January 18, 2012, 08:00:30 am »
Nay on the amendment.
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Professor
Nathan: A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights. Can you really trust him?
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President Marokai
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #46 on:
January 18, 2012, 07:59:28 pm »
Vote on the amendment currently at 4 - 4.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
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Senator North Carolina Yankee
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #47 on:
January 20, 2012, 07:08:03 pm »
Nay
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President Marokai
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #48 on:
January 20, 2012, 09:05:15 pm »
4 Ayes, 5 Nays, and several days after the voting started, that amendment has failed.
I now open up a vote on amendment #2, from Junkie.
(Two more after this, hurray.)
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Section 2: Regulation and Re-Affirming Legalization
1. The possession, sale, transportation and consumption of marijuana, and the plants needed for its processing, shall be legal for citizens 18 and over throughout the Republic of Atlasia.
Aye.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #49 on:
January 20, 2012, 09:06:56 pm »
Aye
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
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