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Diabolical Minds Think Alike
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #50 on:
January 20, 2012, 09:46:27 pm »
Aye
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 20, 2012, 09:06:56 pm
Aye
I thought you opposed both amendments?
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NEY YO HOY MINOY NEYOYOYENOYMEMOY
TJ in Wisco
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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January 20, 2012, 09:51:39 pm »
Nay
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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January 21, 2012, 12:38:35 am »
aye
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Senator Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #53 on:
January 21, 2012, 01:01:17 am »
Quote from: Generic Paulbot on January 20, 2012, 09:46:27 pm
Aye
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 20, 2012, 09:06:56 pm
Aye
I thought you opposed both amendments?
No
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
Junkie
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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January 21, 2012, 10:04:26 am »
Aye
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #55 on:
January 21, 2012, 10:30:35 am »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 21, 2012, 01:01:17 am
Quote from: Generic Paulbot on January 20, 2012, 09:46:27 pm
Aye
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 20, 2012, 09:06:56 pm
Aye
I thought you opposed both amendments?
No
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Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 07:53:14 pm
Nay.
Alcohol age restrictions are left up to the regions. We ought to be consistent.
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NEY YO HOY MINOY NEYOYOYENOYMEMOY
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #56 on:
January 21, 2012, 11:54:14 am »
Nay on the amendment. I really don't think that we should be doing this on a federal level. I just don't think that that works well for drug issues.
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Senator Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment]
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Reply #57 on:
January 21, 2012, 02:37:24 pm »
Quote from: Generic Paulbot on January 21, 2012, 10:30:35 am
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 21, 2012, 01:01:17 am
Quote from: Generic Paulbot on January 20, 2012, 09:46:27 pm
Aye
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 20, 2012, 09:06:56 pm
Aye
I thought you opposed both amendments?
No
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Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 16, 2012, 07:53:14 pm
Nay.
Alcohol age restrictions are left up to the regions. We ought to be consistent.
What is your point? That was a completely different amendment.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
Diabolical Minds Think Alike
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #58 on:
January 21, 2012, 02:43:32 pm »
So it's okay to regulate marijuana based on age, but not alcohol?
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NEY YO HOY MINOY NEYOYOYENOYMEMOY
Senator Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #59 on:
January 21, 2012, 02:52:07 pm »
Right, change my vote to Nay.
It should have been obvious to the PPT that Junkie was only trying to add one word.
If you have a point, make it next time. I don't like playing games.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
MOPolitico
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #60 on:
January 21, 2012, 02:59:44 pm »
Nay
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TJ in Wisco
TJ in Cleve
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #61 on:
January 21, 2012, 03:11:48 pm »
In order to deal with the age question, I would like to propose the following amendment because the current bill could be interpreted to mean that marijuana must be legalized for people of all ages throughout Atlasia.
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Section 2: Regulation and Re-Affirming Legalization
1.
The possession, sale, and consumption of marijuana, and the plants needed for its processing, shall be legal throughout the Republic of Atlasia.
Regions may impose age restrictions on its legality.
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Junkie
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #62 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:00:07 pm »
Add the word transportation to that and I agree
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Senator Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #63 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:01:39 pm »
Quote from: Junkie on January 21, 2012, 06:00:07 pm
Add the word transportation to that and I agree
What made you change your mind, if I may?
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
President Marokai
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #64 on:
January 21, 2012, 08:31:52 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 21, 2012, 02:52:07 pm
Right, change my vote to Nay.
It should have been obvious to the PPT that Junkie was only trying to add one word.
If you have a point, make it next time. I don't like playing games.
It's okay, Napoleon. I just assumed you were high again.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
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Senator Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #65 on:
January 22, 2012, 04:16:30 am »
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 21, 2012, 08:31:52 pm
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 21, 2012, 02:52:07 pm
Right, change my vote to Nay.
It should have been obvious to the PPT that Junkie was only trying to add one word.
If you have a point, make it next time. I don't like playing games.
It's okay, Napoleon. I just assumed you were high again.
You're mature.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
TJ in Wisco
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #66 on:
January 22, 2012, 03:16:56 pm »
Transportation is added.
Quote
Section 2: Regulation and Re-Affirming Legalization
1.
The possession, sale,
transportation
, and consumption of marijuana, and the plants needed for its processing, shall be legal throughout the Republic of Atlasia.
Regions may impose age restrictions on its legality.
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Junkie
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #67 on:
January 22, 2012, 06:19:56 pm »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 21, 2012, 06:01:39 pm
Quote from: Junkie on January 21, 2012, 06:00:07 pm
Add the word transportation to that and I agree
What made you change your mind, if I may?
Sure. I am in favor of legalizing most if not all drugs as they only serve to feed as the currency of power for criminal organizations and gangs. But I want to make sure that it makes sense, thus adding transportation.
I do believe that the age should be 18, but could understand local laws that might want to allow use with a parent's permission, such as Wisconsin does with alcohol (any age by the way, no floor on it which is just silly in my view).
That being said, I am still a little stuck on the regional rights issue. I am still reading my notes from the previous SC cases on this issue as well as looking at previous statutes. The main reason I am agreeing at this point, is if I do support this bill, I want to make it make sense.
Now, and I am just pointing this out, while I can see the regional rights argument of some here, I do not believe it is a realistic argument coming from you as you were the sponsor of the bill that legalizing cocaine. How could it be a violation of a regions rights to impose an age limit on marijuana but not a violation to totally decriminalize the possession of cocaine (while at the same time still making it illegal to sell it).
This is not an attack but rather just a spelling out of my thinking as I attempt to weigh all the sides on this issue, contribute to making the bill workable, while still trying to rectify this bill with legal precedent, the constitution, and my own personal beliefs.
Hope that clears it up.
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #68 on:
January 22, 2012, 08:21:28 pm »
So its Marokais fault for not being able to get inside Junkies head and assume his amendment referred only to transportation, and not the age restriction too? Uh...no need to play blame game.
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Tmthforu94
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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January 22, 2012, 09:44:02 pm »
Quote from: Tmthforu94 on January 22, 2012, 08:21:28 pm
So its Marokais fault for not being able to get inside Junkies head and assume his amendment referred only to transportation, and not the age restriction too? Uh...no need to play blame game.
I'm not telepathic, so shame on me.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #70 on:
January 24, 2012, 04:34:47 am »
Those vote is currently at 4-4, for the record. If Junkie intended on his vote to be changed as nay, he'll have to reiterate that more clearly. Otherwise, we're stuck.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
I do not want my children to be integrated into a pro-homosexual discourse
Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #71 on:
January 24, 2012, 04:57:30 am »
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 22, 2012, 09:44:02 pm
Quote from: Tmthforu94 on January 22, 2012, 08:21:28 pm
So its Marokais fault for not being able to get inside Junkies head and assume his amendment referred only to transportation, and not the age restriction too? Uh...no need to play blame game.
I'm not telepathic, so shame on me.
You're willing to count votes while merely "assuming" there is a given number of Senators at the time, but you can't assume the bolder text in an offered amendment is the proposed change? Wow.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
President Marokai
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #72 on:
January 24, 2012, 05:47:03 am »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 24, 2012, 04:57:30 am
Quote from: Mad Marokai, PPT on January 22, 2012, 09:44:02 pm
Quote from: Tmthforu94 on January 22, 2012, 08:21:28 pm
So its Marokais fault for not being able to get inside Junkies head and assume his amendment referred only to transportation, and not the age restriction too? Uh...no need to play blame game.
I'm not telepathic, so shame on me.
You're willing to count votes while merely "assuming" there is a given number of Senators at the time, but you can't assume the bolder text in an offered amendment is the proposed change? Wow.
Tender announced his retirement, there's movement already to find a way to replace him, and he's taken absolutely no action in the Senate whatsoever. It's not exactly an unreasonable assumption to make.
Junkie proposed an amendment with all of that text within it, and at the time, the age restriction seemed to me like it was going to pass uncontroversially before you decided to bicker against it and then fling out two other amendments that had no reason to be separate. I had no reason to think with his amendment that he meant only to include transportation to the bill. It was his error more than it was mine.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
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Re: Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act [Voting on amendment #2]
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Reply #73 on:
January 24, 2012, 05:50:33 am »
Two different changes deserve two different votes. It doesn't take a genius to figure that much out. Besides, the Senate agreed with me on the age restriction amendment. I just want to improve the bill.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
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January 24, 2012, 05:52:33 am »
Quote from: No Good Napoleon on January 24, 2012, 05:50:33 am
Two different changes deserve two different votes. It doesn't take a genius to figure that much out. Besides, the Senate agreed with me on the age restriction amendment. I just want to improve the bill.
It is not my place to just edit someone's proposed amendment because I think they meant something else. If I ever did that to you, you would've tried to start some sort of "impeach Marokai" contest and called it a gross abuse of power.
If it's in the text, it's an amendment. Them's the rules.
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Quote from: 後援会 on August 26, 2012, 12:29:57 am
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