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Alcon
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« on: January 18, 2012, 03:13:14 AM »

What are you grappling with in deciding your vote?  I'd be more than happy to make my case about the amendment (even if I'm a damn interloper Tongue) but I want to hear where you're at now.

(I'm absolutely against it and think it's terrible public policy.)
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Alcon
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 02:56:49 PM »

I'll probably end up voting for it just to piss everyone off because I am tired of hearing everyone complaining about it.

You are going to vote for it because it's an issue people feel strongly about?  I really hope you aren't serious.
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Alcon
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 06:51:20 PM »

Why are you on the fence about it?

Literally nothing would change if this amendment failed.
Gay marriage is already banned in North Carolina, it's not like this would legalize it if it passed.

There is no justified reason to support this amendment.

We all know MilesC56 and Klecly are eschewing rational justifications in favor of religious theocracy in 2012.

Bravo chaps, bravo.

I don't consider myself especially religious.

What's your rationale for still considering a yes vote, then?  (I think the religion issue is overplayed, since this is civil marriage, but I don't see anything resembling a decent public policy argument for Constitutionally banning gay civil unions [!!!].)
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Alcon
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 12:14:57 PM »

I don't even see why there is necessarily an inherent assumption that social consevatism must be religiously derived.

For instance, my motivations for holding the socially conservative positions that I have, has absolutely nothing to do with anything remotely religious, as I am very secular and at one point was even atheist.

I didn't assume social conservatism must be religiously derived.  I said that the secular policy arguments against gay marriage strike me as the least convincing of basically any policy arguments out there.  I frankly can't imagine being opposed to gay marriage even as a social conservative, unless I was ridiculously traditionalist-for-the-sake-of-traditionalism...and I think everyone here is more thoughtful than that.  That's why I'm asking why the folks here are leaning what they are.

I also understand the tendency to turn against annoying things, but for a policy vote that has many years' worth of effects, voting on something so transient... Sad
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