We had Ohio and Wisconsin; now republixans go after unions in Indiana.

[BlondewithaBrain]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-unions-indiana-righttowork-idUSTRE80500G20120106

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house. No real person knows what right to work is but the gop are in this way making rich people richer and the american dream remains a dream.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Not that I disagree with you, but if your so pro Union, you probably have the wrong Avatar.

[opebo]

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house.

Actually union busting moves by the GOP in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and yes even Indiana, make those states all the likelier to vote Democrat.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house.

Actually union busting moves by the GOP in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and yes even Indiana, make those states all the likelier to vote Democrat.

I dont that they're gonna win Indiana this time. The Democrat bench here is rather weak in comparison to what the GOP has. Most Hoosiers want Right to Work legislation to pass.

[opebo]

I dont that they're gonna win Indiana this time. The Democrat bench here is rather weak in comparison to what the GOP has. Most Hoosiers want Right to Work legislation to pass.

What are they, stupid?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I dont that they're gonna win Indiana this time. The Democrat bench here is rather weak in comparison to what the GOP has. Most Hoosiers want Right to Work legislation to pass.

What are they, stupid?

They hear 'Right to Work' and don't have a very clear idea of what it means, nor care.

[dead0man]

So they're just like the other side?

[Sewer]

So they're just like the other side?

The other side of Hoosiers? What is the other side of them? What are you talking about???

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

So they're just like the other side?

Yes in that vast majorities of any given political ideology are grossly uninformed. No in that 'Right to Work' is significantly more disingenuous than any leftist terms used in labor politics that I can think of (although all this really says is that the right is currently better at political messaging in this country).

[dead0man]

agreed

[Person Man]

So they're just like the other side?

Yes in that vast majorities of any given political ideology are grossly uninformed. No in that 'Right to Work' is significantly more disingenuous than any leftist terms used in labor politics that I can think of (although all this really says is that the right is currently better at political messaging in this country).

Conservatives win because they have better social skills? Then again, a lot of them can't get laid...so....

Back to the point. When I first heard "Right to Work", I thought it meant that you were guaranteed a job, not that people could work without paying union dues.

Seriously, though. If you have Right to Work, then we should have card check laws. 

[minionofmidas]

"Republixan"? Don't get it.

[tmthforu94]

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house.

Actually union busting moves by the GOP in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and yes even Indiana, make those states all the likelier to vote Democrat.

I dont that they're gonna win Indiana this time. The Democrat bench here is rather weak in comparison to what the GOP has. Most Hoosiers want Right to Work legislation to pass.

Where?

Republicans are making a huge political mistake pushing for this. I haven't quite formed an opinion yet, but I question how good this really is when all Democrats oppose this and even some "maverick" GOP Senators, such as my own, are going against this.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

So they're just like the other side?

Yes in that vast majorities of any given political ideology are grossly uninformed. No in that 'Right to Work' is significantly more disingenuous than any leftist terms used in labor politics that I can think of (although all this really says is that the right is currently better at political messaging in this country).

Conservatives win because they have better social skills? Then again, a lot of them can't get laid...so....

Back to the point. When I first heard "Right to Work", I thought it meant that you were guaranteed a job, not that people could work without paying union dues.

Seriously, though. If you have Right to Work, then we should have card check laws. 

I really don't understand how one can oppose card check laws and claim to be respecting the wishes of the majority. The applicable majority is the majority of the workers who did card check indicating that they want a union.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

It turns out that the 2 states that lost the most manufacturing jobs are right to work states.  Right to work is one of those political terms that sounds good to people who don't bother to figure out what it actually means, like pro-life or Patriot Act.

[phk]

It turns out that the 2 states that lost the most manufacturing jobs are right to work states.  Right to work is one of those political terms that sounds good to people who don't bother to figure out what it actually means, like pro-life or Patriot Act.

How can manufacturing output be increasing when manufacturing jobs are decreasing?

[opebo]

How can manufacturing output be increasing when manufacturing jobs are decreasing?

Because legislation has not distributed productivity increases properly, phnk.  We should have a 20 hour work week at $100/hour.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

It turns out that the 2 states that lost the most manufacturing jobs are right to work states.  Right to work is one of those political terms that sounds good to people who don't bother to figure out what it actually means, like pro-life or Patriot Act.

How can manufacturing output be increasing when manufacturing jobs are decreasing?

Technological gains in productivity.

[BlondewithaBrain]

It turns out that the 2 states that lost the most manufacturing jobs are right to work states.  Right to work is one of those political terms that sounds good to people who don't bother to figure out what it actually means, like pro-life or Patriot Act.

How can manufacturing output be increasing when manufacturing jobs are decreasing?

High technical manufactoring  few workers but educated engineers.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house.

Actually union busting moves by the GOP in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and yes even Indiana, make those states all the likelier to vote Democrat.

I dont that they're gonna win Indiana this time. The Democrat bench here is rather weak in comparison to what the GOP has. Most Hoosiers want Right to Work legislation to pass.

Where?

Republicans are making a huge political mistake pushing for this. I haven't quite formed an opinion yet, but I question how good this really is when all Democrats oppose this and even some "maverick" GOP Senators, such as my own, are going against this.

My rep (Vannatter) is spearheading this IIRC. Sadly I'm gonna have to tell him he's wrong in endorsing Romney

[tmthforu94]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hFGXVYzOfYO5WjwYWSQHkaKmCcNg?docId=c80c405e1d4147139578fc0b7bb54e67

Indiana's Right to Work Legislation passed the House just a few minutes ago, 55-41. It now heads to the Senate, where GOP has a supermajority. Daniels has stated he'd sign it as well, so expect it to be signed sometime next week, most likely.

[bgwah]

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house.

Actually union busting moves by the GOP in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and yes even Indiana, make those states all the likelier to vote Democrat.

Perhaps in the short term. I believe the OP is referring to the fact that unions are a major source of campaign funds for the Democratic Party.

I've never really understood how "right to work" is fair at all. If you don't want to be a member of a union, you're certainly allowed to quit your unionized job and go find non-unionized work.

[CaDan]

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Holy Irony Batman!

[krazen1211]

This is about one thing and one thing only.

Making it easier to put a republican in the white house.

Actually union busting moves by the GOP in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and yes even Indiana, make those states all the likelier to vote Democrat.

Perhaps in the short term. I believe the OP is referring to the fact that unions are a major source of campaign funds for the Democratic Party.

I've never really understood how "right to work" is fair at all. If you don't want to be a member of a union, you're certainly allowed to quit your unionized job and go find non-unionized work.

Alternatively, the union could provide a service worth joining rather than using coercion and then funneling your dues to the Democratic party.

[memphis]

It turns out that the 2 states that lost the most manufacturing jobs are right to work states.  Right to work is one of those political terms that sounds good to people who don't bother to figure out what it actually means, like pro-life or Patriot Act.

How can manufacturing output be increasing when manufacturing jobs are decreasing?

Technological gains in productivity.

Not only technology. People are working a helluva lot harder today too.