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Miles
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« on: January 19, 2012, 01:37:03 AM »

Article here.

I think its a bit of stretch. I think 20-23 seats would be the upper-end, imo.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 01:44:00 AM »

I wish her luck on that. Because she's going to need a sh*t load of it if she wants to win the House back.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 02:00:12 AM »

I wish her luck on that. Because she's going to need a sh*t load of it if she wants to win the House back.

Never underestimate the ability of House Republicans to make a fool of themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 02:20:22 AM »

Assuming Obama get reelected I think we'll shrink the Republican margin significantly, enough that Democrats can work with moderate Republicans to accomplish more we've done in the past year.

Would be interesting if we won the house by a hair and lost the senate by a hair.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 02:44:20 AM »

So far my forecast is between 10 and 15. Too many states in which redistricting was controlled by Republicans. And too few states where Democrats could do whatever they wanted (like Illinois and Maryland). 15 is more realistic))))
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 10:11:45 AM »

Assuming Obama get reelected I think we'll shrink the Republican margin significantly, enough that Democrats can work with moderate Republicans to accomplish more we've done in the past year.

Would be interesting if we won the house by a hair and lost the senate by a hair.

The only one left is Walter Jones.

And too few states where Democrats could do whatever they wanted (like Illinois and Maryland). 15 is more realistic))))

But they did get favorable maps from nonpartisan commissions in CA and AZ.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 11:57:04 AM »

The state I'm watching is Florida. A court-appointed special master's map there might be the biggest boon for the Democrats this cycle.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 03:32:12 PM »

We'll pick up a seat in Nevada as well, with the other seat being a potential toss-up.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 03:34:32 PM »

     A partisan painting an improbably rosy picture of the upcoming elections? I think I might have seen that somewhere before.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 03:36:51 PM »

The state I'm watching is Florida. A court-appointed special master's map there might be the biggest boon for the Democrats this cycle.

Unfortunately it looks like the GOP obeyed the new law just enough to avoid the map getting tossed. Granted in doing so they gave the Dems a new seat and threw an already in rough waters GOP incumbent under the bus and left a few seats potentially competitive they could've changed. The real point of contention is the Tampa Bay-St. Petersburg area mess where there's still good lawsuit potential, but I have a feeling any redraws would be just around there instead of the whole map. But if it's enough to scare Bill Young into retirement and result in a Dem-leaning open seat, I'll take it.

Texas looks like a potential court-draw though.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 05:19:50 PM »

I have long given up trying to predict seat gains at this point. American voters are schizophrenic.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 08:42:40 PM »

The state I'm watching is Florida. A court-appointed special master's map there might be the biggest boon for the Democrats this cycle.

There will not be such. The legislature is finishing up work early in order to be present to do a remapping if one is required.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 10:54:07 PM »

well 35 seats is probably a bit of a push. I'd expect around a dozen or so seats to be gained. The challenge later this decade will be to make sure to field quality candidates, and have quality governors in the large states to break apart any gerrymander (if the legislature is still GOP).

Put it to you this way: what newly redrawn districts will trend the most toward the democrats by 2020?
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 01:59:23 AM »


Nah, I'd say the only one left is Frank LoBiondo.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 05:58:58 PM »

What a surprise "the only one left" is a congressman who lives in the same state or in a neighboring state. Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 08:13:51 PM »

"Democrats are on pace to keep control of the House."

- Nancy Pelosi, Nov. 2, 2010


'Nuff said.
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 09:31:22 PM »

"Democrats are on pace to keep control of the House."

- Nancy Pelosi, Nov. 2, 2010


'Nuff said.

A political figure putting a brave face on certain defeat? Shocking! Wink
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 10:29:20 PM »

Dems currently lead the generic ballot, but only by enough to win about 20-30 seats. They probably need to win by >3% to take back the House.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 05:27:35 PM »

If Gingrich is the nominee, Democrats could gain 40+ seats. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 05:40:35 PM »

Dems currently lead the generic ballot, but only by enough to win about 20-30 seats. They probably need to win by >3% to take back the House.

Well, 30 seats are enough.
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2012, 09:31:47 PM »

If Gingrich is the nominee, Democrats could gain 40 60+ seats. 

Yeah.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2012, 09:34:49 PM »

Assuming Obama get reelected I think we'll shrink the Republican margin significantly, enough that Democrats can work with moderate Republicans to accomplish more we've done in the past year.

Would be interesting if we won the house by a hair and lost the senate by a hair.

Hint, the moderate Republicans aren't Republicans any more. Check the party affiliations of Jeffords, Chaffee, Bloomberg, and the like.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2012, 06:34:56 PM »

Gerrymandering cost us the House, IMO.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2012, 07:51:31 PM »
« Edited: January 22, 2012, 09:19:38 PM by Nagas »

Gerrymandering cost us the House, IMO.

Um? http://cookpolitical.com/node/10516

No net change with the submitted maps. It's easy to cry wolf when the Republicans did control most of the decision process, but we got lucky with those nonpartisan commissions. We got generous maps in California and Arizona. Will probably pick up the new seat in Nevada as well.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2012, 08:12:21 PM »

If Gingrich is the nominee, Democrats could gain 40+ seats. 

Are you sure we shouldn't sit this one out and just try again in 2014?
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