Should prisoners be allowed to vote?

[7,052,770]

Maybe count prisoners the way slaves were once counted, as not an entire person, but 2/3 of a person.

that's 3/5 of a person, not that it really matters.

Anyhow, I think prisoners should be able to vote after their sentence is over.  As far as voting in jail, is that even feasable?  I don't really oppose or support it.

[GLOBAL DICTATOR]

Maybe count prisoners the way slaves were once counted, as not an entire person, but 2/3 of a person.

that's 3/5 of a person, not that it really matters.

Anyhow, I think prisoners should be able to vote after their sentence is over.  As far as voting in jail, is that even feasable?  I don't really oppose or support it.

SORRY HARRY. You are right, it was 3/5ths.

[MAS117]

No

[Hatman 🍁]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

[??????????]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

[Platypus]

in Australia, all prisoners vote. There is a 100% turnout, because the AEC sets up booths in prison that they have to attend

[patrick1]

Funny I thought the whole elctorate were prisoners and convicts^^^^^^

[Platypus]

i could point out that over a quarter were born overseas and clearly came here after the convicts, or that whilst many australians do have some convict blood the amount of actual deportess was less then the British sent to North America, but I won't.

I'll just net-punch you instead. *punch*

Thats what Aussies are meant to do, right?

[J. J.]

Funny I thought the whole elctorate were prisoners and convicts^^^^^^

I think Hughento is referring to the current situation, not the genetics.  ;-)

[minionofmidas]

in Australia, all prisoners vote. There is a 100% turnout, because the AEC sets up booths in prison that they have to attend

Well, of course Australia has compulsory voting for everybody.
Nice to see the yes vote has picked up.

[minionofmidas]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights.

Of course this applies to a minority of prisoners only...even if you do count property rights.

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The problem with stripping people's voting rights off is this...
Government, and laws, are morally justified by the consent of the governed. This consent is expressed, in our society, by the ballot.
Take away a man's right to vote and you take away your own moral right to punish him for any other crime he might later commit.
At least that's my point of view. Taking away a man's right to vote is just behind the death penalty in hideousness. Neither is compatible with a real democracy. (Oops, forget about that part. You support the death penalty, after all. )

As for Earl's point on the voting age, yeah in theory I agree. There's some practical problems though...but personally I wouldn't object to lowering the voting age to 10 or 12.

[JohnFKennedy]

While in prison they should not have the right to vote, when they commit a crime they effectively void certain rights under the law and until they have made penance for their crime(s) through the system, they should not have the right to vote.

Once they have been released I believe that they have served their dues and repaid their debt to society and should be allowed back into it and granted all rights lost during time in imprisonment.

[Hatman 🍁]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Akno21]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

But 3 rights make a left

[??????????]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yes, convicting people of crimes is a wrong. Free all the prisoners because we wouldn't want to fall into that logical theory of yours. Eh?

[Hatman 🍁]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yes, convicting people of crimes is a wrong. Free all the prisoners because we wouldn't want to fall into that logical theory of yours. Eh?

Convicting criminals is not wrong, not allowing them to vote is.

[??????????]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yes, convicting people of crimes is a wrong. Free all the prisoners because we wouldn't want to fall into that logical theory of yours. Eh?

Convicting criminals is not wrong, not allowing them to vote is.

So its ok to brutally take someones rights away in an instant yet allow the animal murderer to have a say in anything? If we had more executions of these animals "voting rights" wouldnt be a concern.

[patrick1]

I'm agree with states.  Many prisoners don't deserve to breath the same air as the rest of us moreless the franchise.

[patrick1]

I'm agree with states.  Many prisoners don't deserve to breath the same air as the rest of us moreless the franchise.

Can some grammarian please fix the above sentence?

[J. J.]

I'm agree with states.  Many prisoners don't deserve to breath the same air as the rest of us moreless the franchise.

Can some grammarian please fix the above sentence?

"I agree with States.  Many prisoners don't deserve to breath the sam air we do, much less exercise the franchise."

How's that?

[patrick1]

I'm agree with states.  Many prisoners don't deserve to breath the same air as the rest of us moreless the franchise.

Can some grammarian please fix the above sentence?

"I agree with States.  Many prisoners don't deserve to breath the sam air we do, much less exercise the franchise."

How's that?

Obliged.  I spent too much time in the business world cranking out quick memos   and my grammar has suffered tremendously.

[Hatman 🍁]

I am a big fan of democracy, so of course I will say yes. Voting is a right worth more than life itself. Give me democracy or give me death!

This is why the voting age should be eliminated as well. Anyone who disagrees with me is that much closer to Hitler

The whole point in removing a convicted criminals right to vote is due to the fact that the criminal permaturely removed somebody elses constitutional rights. I don't have a problem giving back voting rights to someone who robbed or carjacked someone. But a murderer should never get back the right to vote. Ever.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yes, convicting people of crimes is a wrong. Free all the prisoners because we wouldn't want to fall into that logical theory of yours. Eh?

Convicting criminals is not wrong, not allowing them to vote is.

So its ok to brutally take someones rights away in an instant yet allow the animal murderer to have a say in anything? If we had more executions of these animals "voting rights" wouldnt be a concern.

If we are going to allow prisoners the right to life, (even until they are executed) by allowing them shelter, nurishment, etc.., why not give them the right to vote as well? As I have mentioned, the right to vote is more important the life itself.

If we allow prisoners these few rights, even though they stole them from someone by murdering them, I don't see why voting should be excluded. Let's remember folks, voting is a fundemental right, not a privelege for the very few.

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But they do breathe the same air we do, and well voting is like breathing - everyone must do it.

[John Dibble]

Well, let's look at the murderer case for this: A murderer takes away a life. That life no longer can vote. So, why should the killer get to keep his right to vote if he has taken that right from another person?

And if voting isn't something everyone must do - there's a number of people who shouldn't vote(and thankfully many of them don't). There are great numbers of uninformed voters, who if they did vote would make uninformed decisions - do you really want idiots who have no idea what they are doing recklessly directing the course of the nation? Now I ask a similar question - do you want criminals directing the course of the nation?

[patrick1]

Earl AW-hypothetical-If someone killed a family member of yours, you believe they should be able to vote on the same issues that the general populace does.  Inmates runninbg the asylum.  Crime can be an abstract concept to people until it hits them personally.

[??????????]

Voting is not a "right". Its a privledge much like driving is.